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12-19-2013, 06:18 PM | #1 |
Join Date: Jan 2012
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Using Cheat! on Item Enhancers and similar.
Can I use a cheat card to put a Treasure card which doesn't enter into play on it's own, like a weapon or steed enhancer, or even the "enhancer enhancers", totally in absence of a target item? When an enhanced item is take out of use application and carried, do the enhancers remain on those items, even when traded to another player as facilitated by other cards?
Last edited by MunchkinMan; 12-19-2013 at 09:53 PM. |
12-19-2013, 09:58 PM | #2 |
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Macungie, PA
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Re: Using Cheat! on Item Enhancers and similar.
Item Enhancers remain with the Items that they are attached to, so if they are stolen, traded, or lost, the Item enhancer goes with the Item. Cheat! is a different story: It always gets discarded. There are no enhancer enhancers that are Items, so that issue is moot.
As for using Cheat! to bring out an Item Enhancer or a Steed Enhancer without attaching it to and Item or Steed: Yes, as long as it's an Item. |
04-07-2021, 02:10 AM | #3 |
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Moscow, Russia
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Re: Using Cheat! on Item Enhancers and similar.
Can thief steal item enhancer under cheat? If yes, what happens if thief hasn't Item he can attach this enhancer to?
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04-07-2021, 09:15 AM | #4 |
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Pizza & Spaghetti
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Re: Using Cheat! on Item Enhancers and similar.
you can't put an item enhancer with a cheat card alone (http://forums.sjgames.com/showthread.php?t=168814)
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04-07-2021, 04:30 PM | #5 |
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Russia, Pyatigorsk (Five-hills)
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Re: Using Cheat! on Item Enhancers and similar.
This is all good, of course. But what can you say about an attempt to steal a Ship Enhancer, which is not played on a ship, but cheated?
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04-08-2021, 03:15 PM | #6 | |
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Re: Using Cheat! on Item Enhancers and similar.
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It is clear that when an Item with Cheat! attached is stolen, the Cheat! gets discarded. Other rulings have said that the Item the Thief steals must go into play. http://forums.sjgames.com/showpost.php?p=1047228& In the case of a Ship/Steed/Hireling Enhancer (which can be Cheated into play without attaching them to something, but can't otherwise be put into play without having a legal target to attach them to), the fact that you cannot put them into play (unless you have something appropriate to attach them to) at least implies that you cannot steal them. I suppose it is possible that the answer is that you CAN steal them, but they then get discarded because you cannot legally put them into play. But that would definitely be something that would have to be clarified by an official source, because there is no rule I know of about discarding Items that you try to illegally put into play. Even in the case of Big Items, where you have to discard extras if you LOSE the ability to have multiples, there isn't a rule saying that if you try to put an extra into play, you then discard it. You just flat aren't allowed to do so. |
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04-08-2021, 12:13 PM | #7 |
Join Date: Feb 2010
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Re: Using Cheat! on Item Enhancers and similar.
But the official ruling from Andrew is Cheat can't be used to put in enhancer in play to start with so the question about stealing is mute.
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