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Old 10-21-2020, 12:25 PM   #11
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Be careful with this. If the dragon-in-human form breaks staircases and can't fit through narrow doors, it's quite a big limitation.
These are several of the reasons my dragon was going to have Dwarfism. The biggest one though would have been the cost to cast spells on a full-sized dragon, even by himself. There's a Perk to alleviate this in Magical Styles and dragon casters will generally need it.
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Old 10-21-2020, 12:54 PM   #12
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Be careful with this. If the dragon-in-human form breaks staircases and can't fit through narrow doors, it's quite a big limitation.
hehe yes ;) But I don't think that would be the case by RAW with alternate form, by default the mass and size fits to the new form (see limitation "Mass Conservation"), so looking like a human you can also act like a human... well, actually I'd say you are a human if you switch form (the wording in Basic Set is "[...] the racial template of whatever you turn into replaces your native racial template.")

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Old 10-21-2020, 02:30 PM   #13
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Note that 250 points actually lets you have a very powerful dragon, you just need a more optimized template.
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Old 10-21-2020, 02:45 PM   #14
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...an interesting and funny idea for the dragon-hiding-as-human approach could be the "cosmetic" (-50%) limitation (B85). That way you could "look" like a normal human, but still (being a very small dragon for real) you would smell very strange and your physical form is different, so you would have to avoid direct body contact and would have some challenges adapting to the human environment.
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Old 10-21-2020, 02:47 PM   #15
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...an interesting and funny idea for the dragon-hiding-as-human approach could be the "cosmetic" (-50%) limitation (B85). That way you could "look" like a normal human, but still (being a very small dragon for real) you would smell very strange and your physical form is different, so you would have to avoid direct body contact.
I was just about to suggest Cosmetic along with the Glamour limitation.

Or I'd even allow just the Glamour limitation on its own. So, you're really a human right now, but it's possible to see through that form.
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Old 10-21-2020, 03:18 PM   #16
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A classic variant could also be Illusion (Powers, p.94), with the Mental Enhancement (+100%), this would affect people's mind so everyone affected believes to see a human, even though the dragon could theoretically be seen by the normal human eye.

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Old 10-21-2020, 04:04 PM   #17
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Pyramid Magazine #3/72 brought some monster templates for Dungeon Fantasy, including a 250 points Dragon template. Considering it's size (SM+1), it seems to be a very young dragon.
Note that the Pyramid template omits the "No Fine Manipulators, -40%" modifier on its DX, so that frees up 24 points to be spent elsewhere.
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Old 10-21-2020, 04:46 PM   #18
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Been playing with a group that had a young dragon in it for oh, about ten years now. Had this:

Alternate Form: Elf (Fast Revert, 2s; No time limit; 3x per day; Magical) [15]
(as well as a draconic racial package, of course)

Seemed to do the trick.
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Old 10-21-2020, 05:15 PM   #19
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Note that the Pyramid template omits the "No Fine Manipulators, -40%" modifier on its DX, ...
Though, I think playing that as a character can really be a challenge, just opening a door for instance is not that easy anymore.
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Old 10-21-2020, 06:23 PM   #20
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Though, I think playing that as a character can really be a challenge, just opening a door for instance is not that easy anymore.
*Shove-Snap-Crack-Crash* what door? In general, I would make a PC dragon (or other large monster) a shapeshifter, possibly with a hybrid form.
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