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02-17-2023, 07:40 AM | #1 |
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Buying the rights to GURPS?!?
THIS IS NOT A SERIOUS OFFER AND NO ANSWERS ARE GOING TO BE CONSIDERED BINDING OR LEGALLY VALID IN ANY AY, SHAPE OR FORM!!!
A friend of mine, for very complicated and dull reasons, asked me how much GURPS "is worth". Essentially, how much would it cost to buy the rights to GURPS (and by estimate, any similar RPG system). Again, not offering, I am dirt poor, but it made me wonder..... (if anyone is wondering, a lot of my old school buddies have gone the business route while Ibecame a science teacher. They like to ask me weird businessy questions about everything I love and watch me squirm...) |
02-17-2023, 07:52 AM | #2 |
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Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Ventura CA
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Re: Buying the rights to GURPS?!?
Steve historically hasn't been interested in selling, AFAICT. So literally priceless, I would think.
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02-17-2023, 12:06 PM | #3 |
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02-17-2023, 12:38 PM | #4 |
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Re: Buying the rights to GURPS?!?
Are you aware that SJ Games publishes an annual "Report to the Stakeholders"? This is an almost unheard-of level of transparency from a gaming company. The report discusses SJ Games' revenues and prospects in enough detail for your business nerd(s) to ballpark a reasonable value.
That said, sir_pudding is exactly correct: SJ himself is the only shareholder, and apparently has no interest in selling. He responds to comments in the thread I linked pretty regularly, so I'm sure you can find his own words on the subject. |
02-17-2023, 03:41 PM | #5 | |
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Re: Buying the rights to GURPS?!?
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Or maybe that will just make them stronger, give them more to question me about....! |
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02-17-2023, 12:33 PM | #6 | |
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06-24-2023, 05:11 PM | #7 |
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Location: Alsea, OR
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Re: Buying the rights to GURPS?!?
There's another measure, equally as important - the taxation assessment value. In many ways, it's far more important than the owner's price to overcome unwillingness to sell, as it's used more often when a business is still profitable
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06-24-2023, 06:06 PM | #8 | |
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Berkeley, CA
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It's also possible he assigned it a value when applying for loans, but there's no real way we would find that out and it doesn't really tell you what it would cost to buy. |
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07-08-2023, 01:33 PM | #9 |
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Hmm, looks like Earth, circa CE 2020+
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Re: Buying the rights to GURPS?!?
Were you wanting an amount in Altairian dollars, Earth yen, Kalganids, or Quatloos?
A bit more seriously, I think you've got some very good answers above!
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07-20-2023, 09:05 AM | #10 | |
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Alsea, OR
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most states have one or more taxes for businesses...
The tax burden paid by SJG would indicate, if one checks the applicable tax rates, the valuation of the company by a biased but independent assessment not requiring sale of SJG to evaluate SJG I know it's in Texas; I don't know the taxation scheme... but looking on the Texas Comptroller lists some 18 different taxation categories. It's noted that it doesn't collect all of them - Property taxes are local and county, not Texas state. Not going through the rest... |
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