04-13-2011, 12:53 AM | #11 |
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04-13-2011, 01:00 AM | #12 |
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Re: Alternate Form that's a Split Personality?
Huh, and here I was thinking of Bob/Nefarious* (from Emergency Exit). Honestly, giving the character an Enemy equal in strength to the "demon's" point total would be appropriate. Frequency of Appearance would be Always, but with an Accessibility modifier representing how rarely the character actually lets himself turn into it (with all the emphasis on trying not to have to change, -80% may be appropriate).
As a bit of a warning, I should note that the power creep in Bleach turned Ichigo's hollow form from something extremely awesome (when it was uncontrollable), to something pretty neat (when it was controllable but had a very short time limit), to "Oh, look, Ichigo's got the mask on again" (when it became basically Ichigo's standard thing). Avoiding this is likely going to be a very good idea. *My thought process: "... very difficult to accomplish..." - Hit him. In the head. "... require very rare or special ingredients..." - Chocolate. Demons love chocolate. "... require extensive research..." - Wonder if white chocolate would work?
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04-13-2011, 01:05 AM | #14 | |
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"If your Delusion turns out to be true, you don’t have to buy it off until the other players realize it’s true." And the other players will know it's true (that the AF is a distinct person) - it'll be obvious. The AF won't be viewed as "crazy" (which a lot of the point of the cost of Delusions), and also won't be acting crazy (maybe evil and violent, but not crazy, and certainly not due to holding this true belief). Delusion (Severe) might still be the least bad (aka best) tool for the job, but the fact is that no one will ever think or consider or call the AF Delusional nor will it impact the AF's interests negatively.
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04-13-2011, 01:33 AM | #16 | |
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04-13-2011, 03:49 AM | #17 | |
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As far as the loved one thing from Berserk, although I don't think it should be a trigger for the auto-change, it's possible that the player might decide it's worth the risk to transform under certain circumstances if he sees his loved ones or friends in danger of being killed. They'd have to be in pretty serious danger though, or else he'd have to feel pretty assured they had a plan or a trick up their sleeves to get "him" back afterwards, otherwise he might only make things worse or get them killed. He couldn't know their plan for that, nor even be sure they had one, or else the beast might attack them to prevent being used and then subdued again later. But under the right circumstances, the beast could be justifiably deemed worth the risk in the face of near certain death.
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04-13-2011, 04:01 AM | #18 |
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Re: Alternate Form that's a Split Personality?
I'm still not seeing how this affects the cost, especially when the cost is the same if the delusion is not true.
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04-13-2011, 04:16 AM | #19 |
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I was totally thinking of Samurai Deeper Kyo
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04-13-2011, 10:04 AM | #20 | |
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If the condition (1) does not hold because the players know it "isn't really him" and condition (2) doesn't hold because (a) it's not a false belief and (b) his functionality and ability to act according to his own nature (as defined by the mental traits of the Alternate Form) aren't impaired at all and his actions - although malicious - can't honestly be called "crazy", then where is the "delusion" aspect of this? It'd fit none of the requirements to be a Delusion. Incidentally, although it may not be ipso facto the canonical description of a Delusion in GURPS, check out the clinical Indicators of a Delusion. I think it helps to get a better handle on the thing. Specifically, if someone fit the listed indicators, even if what they believed was true and everyone knew it, I'd still call them Delusional and let a PC playing their Delusion like that keep the disadvantage as is. But I have a problem using Delusion as a way to represent a belief that's inconvenient (even seriously) for the overall character. If I went that way, I may as well make believing in the tenets of Judaism during the Spanish Inquisition a Delusion, make early Christians in the ancient Roman Empire (pre-conversion) Delusional, make Galileo Delusional for his belief in the heliocentric model (based on seeing it with his own eyes), or make transgendered people Delusional. None of those things seem quite right as Delusions (maybe the first two, which involve religious belief and thus shares much in common with clinical delusional disorder, but certainly not the last two which are known true beliefs). I'd definitely say Fanaticism for those willing to martyr themselves for their religious beliefs though. And, I guess, maybe Fanaticism ("I'm not the base character" along with a few other tenets like Darkness and Destruction being ends in themselves) is a good choice. It has the advantage that it's always on (no self-control basis), and it can be used to model extreme adherence and devotion to any belief, true or otherwise. I think I'll put that on the AF as one of its mental disadvantages. I still like SuedodeuS's idea of reducing point cost by balancing this out and making this personality an Enemy, and the Fanaticism on the AF isn't incompatible with that, it just lowers the Enemy's CP by -15. I think together they most accurately reflect the true "advantage" this build has to the character.
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