Leeching multiple targets as a free action?

[Jerander]

Originally Posted by David Johnston2

Why compartmentalized mind? Leech isn't that good and it doesn't require concentration.

So you can do something else while you're leeching someone? That seems strange to me.

If that's the case, what would the limitation value be for needing concentration?

[David Johnston2]

Originally Posted by Jerander

So you can do something else while you're leeching someone? That seems strange to me.

You have to do something else while leeching someone if they aren't restrained. You have to grapple them.

[Jerander]

Originally Posted by David Johnston2

You have to do something else while leeching someone if they aren't restrained. You have to grapple them.

Can you grapple more than one person at a time?

I guess what I'm responding to is the idea of tying a bunch of people up, lying them all near each other, then lying on top of them to drain them all simulatenously. That seems strange to me. Other abilities only allow you to use once at time (barring multilpe copies, multiple attacks, and/or appropriate enhancements, etc.). Why would Leech be different?

[David Johnston2]

Originally Posted by Jerander

Can you grapple more than one person at a time?

I guess what I'm responding to is the idea of tying a bunch of people up, lying them all near each other, then lying on top of them to drain them all simulatenously.

Why would anyone want to do that? But that's beside the point. I was just talking about the lack of need for Compartmentalized Mind. If Concentration was needed to use Leech, then you wouldn't be abled to use it on anyone who hadn't been restrained.

[Jerander]

Originally Posted by David Johnston2

Why would anyone want to do that?

Why would anyone want to do what? Grapple more than one person at a time? Bind up a bunch of victims and drain them all simulatenously? Heal faster, I'd guess. And I know plenty of people who would try it.

Originally Posted by David Johnston2

But that's beside the point. I was just talking about the lack of need for Compartmentalized Mind. If Concentration was needed to use Leech, then you wouldn't be abled to use it on anyone who hadn't been restrained.

Compartmentalized Mind would be so you could use your two copies of Leech simulataneously.

My point is I don't understand why someone would get to use Leech twice (or many times) when other abilities only get to be used once as a default.

[David Johnston2]

Originally Posted by Jerander

]Why would anyone want to do what? Grapple more than one person at a time? Bind up a bunch of victims and drain them all simulatenously? Heal faster, I'd guess.

When you've got a whole bunch of tied up people and can lie down on them, you have no need to heal faster because you've plenty of time.

Compartmentalized Mind would be so you could use your two copies of Leech simulataneously.

If you needed Compartmentalized Mind to do that, then you wouldn't be able to simultaneously grapple and Leech.

My point is I don't understand why someone would get to use Leech twice (or many times) when other abilities only get to be used once as a default.

My point is you don't need CM to do that. Extra Attack at most. Note however that you could use any IA bought as a melee attack linked to you punches just by taking two punches.

[Jerander]

Originally Posted by David Johnston2

When you've got a whole bunch of tied up people and can lie down on them, you have no need to heal faster because you've plenty of time.

Depends on the situation.

Originally Posted by David Johnston2

If you needed Compartmentalized Mind to do that, then you wouldn't be able to simultaneously grapple and Leech.

Okay.

Originally Posted by David Johnston2

My point is you don't need CM to do that. Extra Attack at most. Note however that you could use any IA bought as a melee attack linked to you punches just by taking two punches.

Really? Okay. Obviously I need to do a little reading. Can you point me at some page numbers?

[David Johnston2]

Originally Posted by Jerander

Really? Okay. Obviously I need to do a little reading. Can you point me at some page numbers?

Well I don't recall anything saying that you can't do all-out-attacks with your melee Innate Attacks.

[vicky_molokh]

Originally Posted by Jerander

If that's the case, what would the limitation value be for needing concentration?

Use the value of Requires Concentrate?

(I think Leech is underpowered.)

[daniel_gudman]

Leech-a-zone n (Malediction + 100%, Aura + 80%, Area Effect (4 yards) + 100%) [95 + 16 (n-1)]

Everyone within 4 yards of you rolls a quick contest against you (your Will vs their HT) every round. You drain (n) HP from each loser; you heal 1/3 the HP you drain.

Consider "-40% always on" if you want to play the "X-man cursed with awesome" thing, or "+25% efficient" to heal at the same rate you drain, or "+20% selective area" if you want to use your power without the rest of the party hating you for it.