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06-11-2021, 03:09 PM | #5592 | |
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There's probably an IW mission seed in there where Homeline nations can see this coming as the tire factories come on line and run the competition already in trouble from the Depression out of business, and want to try to convince their broke local equivalent governments to subsidize their in country hose, tire ,and synthetic rubber industries.
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06-13-2021, 07:59 AM | #5593 |
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Try this one...
Several times in Earth's history caldera eruptions have massively disrupted Earth's climate. The eruption of mount Tambora being a well known example. Predictions and scare stories about the Yellowstone Caldera are genre unto themselves. However, in Caldera-4 Yellowstone Caldera erupted in 1769 before outsiders even knew about the whole Yellowstone area. Although the effects of the eruption were hard on the English colonies along America's eastern seaboard, their low population densities and relatively good transport systems made their survival possible. Although several southern colonies, which suffered more from trade disruption, collapsed politically. Europe on the other talon faced far larger famines. These were made worse in most of the continent by the resistance of peasant farmers to new crops and farming techniques. Europe started a period of political violence and collapse brought on by several cold icy years in a row with poor or disastrous harvests. With the intensification of the Little Ice Age in the 1780s and the Mount Tambora eruption of 1815, Europe experienced fifty years of famine and war. The local year More later I must go.
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06-13-2021, 08:41 AM | #5594 | |
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I also don't think the southern colonies have more trade dependence, if anything the northern ports cities like New York and Boston seem likely to be harder hit. Not that the effects of a major global disruption on relatively backwater places like British North America matter very much, right? It's not like anything of lasting global significance was scheduled to happen there anyway. I think the most important thing actually happening that year is the Qing invasion of Burma, for which a couple cooler years might actually benefit the Chinese. Though I suspect the big effect in the long term would be a change in the timing and possibly location of the industrial revolution (1769 is the patent date for both Watt's condenser and Richard Arkwright's spinning frame). I'd expect a couple decades delay, but you can probably spin a plausible story for anything, including an acceleration from labor shortages, if you wanted.
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06-14-2021, 02:29 AM | #5595 |
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AFAIK one of the side effects of starvation is it makes a population more susceptible to becoming ill. Lower population density could result in proportionally less folk contracting diseases.
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06-14-2021, 08:44 PM | #5596 |
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It's 1971 in Manson, a near parallel on Q6 that diverged with Charles Manson entering politics in California. The charismatic man is the freshly minted Senator from California, but most people - in universe and out of it - think he has his eyes on higher office. President Hubert Humphrey (who won narrowly in '68) is unpopular and Manson seems to be eying the U.S. Republican Primary - Though some people think he might jump ship to run with the American Independent Party if the Republicans run a liberal candidate.
Needless to say, Homeline is concerned - Manson in politics does not seem to be a high probability event. Manson was, on Homeline, a virulent white supremacist who believed in the inevitability of a race war. Either the U.S. Government or the Patrol might send some agents to turn up (or plant) dirt on Manson to end his political career before it can take off. On the bright side, Sharon Tate has made some lovely movies that Homeline sells back home. |
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Manson is certainly one people say that about. If in this timeline he isn't obviously strange enough to kill a political career (and running on a racist ticket in California will do that even in this era), maybe he's sane, and Homeline has no justification to do anything about him.
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06-15-2021, 09:42 AM | #5598 | |
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06-15-2021, 10:27 AM | #5599 | |
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So I'm seeing a lot of social strife. The poverty and discontent we saw in OTL after Tambora, but worse. A few points that spring to mind:
Nearly half a century is a lot of time for things to restabilize. If Mt. Tambora erupted (I don't know much about geology, but it seems like a supervolcano eruption might delay/prevent that), it would erupt on a world that found a new normal—one where some states had successfully centralized power, and some were forced to give their people more power. The Industrial Revolution may be ahead of OTL as well, though fields of science and engineering unrelated to automation probably lag behind—perhaps helping wealthy industrialists and kings maintain their status despite labor issues, but probably not as much as they think it does. And Mt. Tambora threatens to throw this world into chaos again. In an Infinite Worlds context, this Caldera-4 is an excellent site for the ideological conflict between Centrum and Homeline. When Tambora hits, there will be plenty of chaos that the two worlds can use to hide support for their favored regimes or sabotage of ones they dislike—plenty of opportunities for conflict between those two groups, each trying to secure the fate of an entire worldline. |
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06-17-2021, 12:07 PM | #5600 | |
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Human society in North America took less of a hit because A) lower population density and more farm land per person and more farmers, B) society was under less stress, there were fewer bread riots and wars because society wasn't as much on the edge, and C) there was less plague. Heck, the weather was bad for mosquitoes in North America so Yellow Fever was rare for decades. Benjamin Fraklin's grandson is still alive leads the abolition movement. The local year is 1828, Europe is mainly a post-apocalyptic wasteland slowly waking up from the new dark age. The American Republics are seen as exotic utopias. The Nobles and Kings want to regain power but even in the chaos the people tasted a bit of freedom. Even more importantly, they know they can survive with out their "Betters." They see no reason to return the kings. Meanwhile, Britain is a repressive dictatorship under the rule of King Ernest Augustus. Europe is mainly a mixture of Tech Levels four and five. The American Republics and the UK are both solidly TL5. The UK is more like 1750 and the American Republics are more like 1790. More later.
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