Alchemist Navel gunnery

[Holky]

Ok, navel gunnery doubles one shot items. But then I read Alchemist's effect and it also doubles one shot items. So do they stack at x3 or x4?

[Andrew Hackard]

Doubling twice is x4.

[Holky]

Thanks, I thought so. I'll apply Navel gunnery first though because of alchemist epic :)

[Moldon]

Is this not applicable to Doppelganger?

Originally Posted by Andrew Hackard

I'm ruling that Dopps don't duplicate each other, because that way lies madness. So if you have a combat strength of 20, with two Dopps you would have a total combat strength of 60.

It is very difficult to play by the rules, when in similar situations applys different ruling.

[Andrew Hackard]

They're completely different situations.

Alchemist and Navel Gunnery both double all one-shot Items with a combat bonus. The result is that those one-shot Items have their bonuses quadrupled, because there are two distinct doubling effects happening.

Doppleganger is essentially a one-shot card with a combat bonus equal to your entire combat strength excluding the Doppleganger itself. Having two Dopplegangers doesn't change how that card works; it still equals your combat strength without the Doppleganger included. (Otherwise, Dopp A includes Dopp B and Dopp B includes Dopp A and so on, to infinity.)

If you have some OTHER effect that doubles one-shot bonuses, then the Doppleganger would be doubled -- but two Dopplegangers don't interact that way.

[Moldon]

So, Doppleganger is not double you combat strength, but give Bonus equal you combat strength. Right? Then if Alchemist play Doppleganger he double Doppleganger's Bonus and get triple strength?
What if Russian (Impossible) Alchemist play Doppleganger?

[Andrew Hackard]

Originally Posted by Moldon

What if Russian (Impossible) Alchemist play Doppleganger?

No, we are not going to go through every possible way to double a one-shot bonus and confirm that yes, Doppleganger is a one-shot bonus and it gets doubled.

Doppleganger is a one-shot Item that has a combat bonus equal to your combat strength (except for another Doppleganger). If you have an ability that doubles a one-shot, it works on the Doppleganger.

And this should be the LAST mention of Doppleganger in this thread, which is actually about a different question entirely.