01-12-2022, 02:55 AM | #1 |
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Eternaly extended buff in RPM
Hello! My playgroup wants to try the RPM system soon, it'll be first time for us. The system seems really great and fun, but some things are confusing. Thus, I have some questions.
Sorry if my English is bad. First question. Say, I'd like to have some buff on me, like DR (like in Ghost Shirt spell), and I'd like to have it availible in every battle. First thought was casting it as conditional, charm or something like that. But now I got an idea that I could just cast the buff on myself with 1 day duration and then I could have a morning routine to extend it, by using just a few points of energy, using the rules in After Casting. It would become eternal buff, I just have to spend no more then a minute every morning. Could I do it? At first, it doesn't seem like a realy big deal, but then think that you could have several such buffs, wich seems like a problem. Second question. Let's assume we are using Decanic Trappings, and I often cast spells with path of Energy, which has the Sahu Decan. Could I just once buy an expansive opal amulet (which would fit for 5DP for Sahu) and than have a -5% off from every Energy spell I cast, while wearing it? If I'd do it for all four Decans, it'd be net -20% to all Energy spells! And if i'd do such a thing to path of Magic Decans, I'd get a discount for every conditional spell (assuming no paths of those spells are lower then path of Magic)? Seems like a too good deal for one money investment. I would just become a standard across all mages. Third question. I kinda answered it myself, but fix me if I'm wrong. One mage could not give another one his ER with voluntary sacrifice, right? I couldn't find a rule that he can anywhere. If he could, I can imagine it becoming a problem. I also thought that one mage could perfome some Control Magic ritual, which could give his ER to another caster. But soon I realised that the recieved ER would be useless because of the third rule of Stacking Spells, am I right? Or, maybe, according to the same rule, ER could not be transfered at all. I'd be glad to see your answers, thanks! |
01-12-2022, 02:59 AM | #2 |
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Re: Eternaly extended buff in RPM
One thing I forgot to state. I'm interested in how RAW (or, at least, most of the community) deals with the stated questions. Of course I know that the GM can fix anything as he sees appropriate.
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01-12-2022, 05:13 AM | #3 |
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Re: Eternaly extended buff in RPM
1) You are correct about keeping the spell going indefinitely. For the possible issues, keep in mind you can only have one each of a given Greater or Lesser effect in play at a time. So, Ghost Shirt gives you Greater Control Energy - that means while it's in play, you cannot have any other buffs that involve Greater Control Energy.
2) Yep. Note you've spend more than two months' income for a job at your Wealth level on such ritual items, which is more than 20% of your Starting Wealth at TL 12, and goes up as TL goes down (at TL 8, two month's income is 26% of Starting Wealth; at TL 3, it's 140%). Note RAW this only works if Path of Magic is your lowest Path skill for the ritual in question. Personally, I don't think I'd let Path of Magic Decans contribute if the only Path of Magic contribution is the conditional spell "wrapper." 3) RAW, no, I don't think a mage can contribute ER unless he's actually involved in casting the spell. Personally, I see no real issues with it.
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I also think that good "counter" would be forbidding to use Decans from the "wrapper" (including sense effects for intelligent triggers). You helped to convince me in this, thanks! It's good, thanks! |
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01-12-2022, 07:35 AM | #5 | |||
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A more house-ruley option would be to have buffs interfere with magic in some way. Maybe active buffs (either those on you, or those you've cast) actually count toward the number of conditional spells you have in play. Maybe their Path is considered to be involved in any spell you cast (not necessarily "Ghost Shirt adds Greater Control Energy to all rituals," but more "treat all spells as though Path of Energy were involved, for purposes of determining which Path skill to use and if there are any penalties for 3+ Paths). Maybe having more than your Safe Threshold worth of energy on you in buffs at a time causes a penalty to rolls to gather magic. Maybe having a specific effect on you prevents you from using spells/rituals with that effect (unless you put more energy into the new spell than the buff has in it, in which case you cast the spell but the buff is removed, as it's been "overwritten" by the new spell). Maybe Critical Failures disrupt any buffs you have on you, removing them and contributing a portion of their energy to determining the effects of the CritFail. There's also the fact that needing to renew 10-15 spells on each character every day means you'll probably end up with a Critical Failure in short order, which could end poorly (particularly if using that last option, above). With 4 characters, then even if you can restore the Duration with only one successful Gathering roll, that's 40-60 rolls each day. Not only is that potentially rather annoying to game out, but even with effective skill 16+ (so you only CritFail on an 18), 40 rolls results in a ~17% chance of suffering at least one CritFail, while 60 rolls results in a ~25% chance of suffering at least one CritFail. That's each day - over a week of adventuring (7 days), that's a ~73% or ~86% chance, respectively, of suffering at least one CritFail. Quote:
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01-12-2022, 01:58 PM | #7 |
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Re: Eternaly extended buff in RPM
Thanks for your solutions, seems like it should work!
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01-12-2022, 04:34 PM | #8 |
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Re: Eternaly extended buff in RPM
Buffing Rule? Where's that?
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01-12-2022, 04:48 PM | #9 |
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01-13-2022, 08:03 AM | #10 |
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Re: Eternaly extended buff in RPM
Aha! There's another reason to add that title to my wishlist.
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