10-14-2007, 10:47 PM | #1 |
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Martial Arts: How does Disarm work?
I've been looking closely at the fencing styles and their maneuvers, which I expect to use soon.
The Disarm maneuver lets you attempt to strike at a foe's weapon, with intent to knock it out of their hand. If you succeed, you have a quick contest of weapon skills or of Disarm vs. Retain Weapon. Now, if I'm a fencer, and someone makes a Disarm move at me, can I use an active defense against it? Can I dodge? Can I parry? It seems as if parrying a Disarm would involve putting your weapon in the way of the Disarm, which kind of defeats the purpose, but Martial Arts does say that there are moves called "parries" that involve getting out of the way. So if I make my defense roll, did my adversary just waste that Disarm? Or is it impossible to defend against a Disarm, and do we go right to the quick contest? Bill Stoddard |
10-14-2007, 11:09 PM | #2 |
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Re: Martial Arts: How does Disarm work?
I'm pretty sure Disarm is a melee attack and is treated just like any other melee attack - hit, defend, then resolve (and if the hit fails or defense succeeds, nothing happens).
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10-14-2007, 11:44 PM | #3 | |
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Re: Martial Arts: How does Disarm work?
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10-15-2007, 12:01 AM | #4 |
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Re: Martial Arts: How does Disarm work?
Disarming is simply a technique to improve your odds at Knocking a Weapon Away (p. B401). As those rules note: "If you hit and your foe fails to defend, roll a Quick Contest of weapon skills with your foe; if you’re attempting to knock away a missile weapon, your opponent rolls against DX." In other words, there are four rolls in total:
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10-15-2007, 07:49 AM | #5 | |
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Re: Martial Arts: How does Disarm work?
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10-15-2007, 08:14 AM | #6 |
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Re: Martial Arts: How does Disarm work?
Take an axe and apply it - with great force - to your opponent's shoulder. There is a good chance he will be disarmed.
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10-15-2007, 07:34 PM | #7 |
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But that makes the floor all slippery --
and the Environment Impact Statement is a [expletive deleted.]
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08-09-2022, 03:26 PM | #8 | |
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Re: Martial Arts: How does Disarm work?
Apologies for the necromancy, but:
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With "This can be ST-based", does that mean that the melee weapon skill for the purpose of this context is based on strength, rather than dexterity, if it were better? So instead of DX + 5 for a weapon, it would be ST + 5? Or is it a dex weapon skill, or a strength quick contest 'as is' (retain the weapon with sheer grip strength)? |
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08-09-2022, 04:45 PM | #9 |
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Re: Martial Arts: How does Disarm work?
"Either of you may opt to make a ST-based skill roll instead of the standard DX-based one, if that would be better." (Basic 401 Knocking Your Weapon Away).
So when Speedy the Swashbuckler hits the ogre's weapon with the intent to knock it away, Speedy is making a DX-based roll against DX+5 (a 20, in his case). The ogre is making a ST-based roll against ST+2 (a 26, in his case).
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08-10-2022, 07:52 PM | #10 |
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Re: Martial Arts: How does Disarm work?
I believe that the to-hit is still dex-based, but the quick contest can (optionally) be str-based. If you try to disarm the str 18 barbarian, he will probably opt to use strength for the contest. :)
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