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Old 01-13-2011, 09:09 PM   #1
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First to RPK great job on Psionc Powers, I love the book & just got a hard copy shipped to me to suplement my PDF copy.

To everyone,
I have a few questions about the 'Power Defence' on p.8 of PP though.

1) Can one use FP to get a bonus to the roll as in other defecces?

2) Is there any penalty for useing it more than once in a turn (like a parry has)?

3) What effect does armor devisors have on the damage blocked?
Frex: I use TK crush lvl 6 to intecept a bullet. Bullet rolls 8 pts dam.
A standard bullet would then have 2 pts get through. Would an AP bullet only lose 3 pts?

Thanks to all who answer.

I know about the rules for Power Def in Powers.

However, the Power def in Psionc Pow seems to work differently. also it does not say only one per turn & thats a petty important piece of info. I would think that if it was only 1 per turn it would say so.

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Old 01-13-2011, 09:28 PM   #2
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1) Can one use FP to get a bonus to the roll as in other defecces?
I don't see why not.

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2) Is there any penalty for useing it more than once in a turn (like a parry has)?
It doesn't say so but not having a penalty seems incredibly powerful. I would be surprised if having a penalty wasn't the intent.

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3) What effect does armor devisors have on the damage blocked?
Frex: I use TK crush lvl 6 to intecept a bullet. Bullet rolls 8 pts dam.
A standard bullet would then have 2 pts get through. Would an AP bullet only lose 3 pts?
In the case of stopping things with TK and Innate Attack you're directly reducing the basic damage of the attack, as a result armor divisors have no effect. This is made clear in the example provided.

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Old 01-14-2011, 01:53 AM   #3
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2) Is there any penalty for useing it more than once in a turn (like a parry has)?
I don't have Psionic Powers, but based on Powers my guess is a power defense must be defined as a parry or a block, following the relevant rules(in Basic or Martial Arts) for repeated use. For TK, presumably a parry.
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Old 01-14-2011, 08:11 AM   #4
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I have a few questions about the 'Power Defence' on p.8 of PP though.

2) Is there any penalty for useing it more than once in a turn (like a parry has)?
The rules for power defenses in Powers allow for only one use per turn (Defending with Powers, p167).
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Old 01-14-2011, 09:08 AM   #5
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I know about the rules for Power Def in Powers.

However, the Power def in Psionc Pow seems to work differently. also it does not say only one per turn & thats a petty important piece of info. I would think that if it was only 1 per turn it would say so.
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Old 01-14-2011, 09:25 AM   #6
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I know about the rules for Power Def in Powers.

However, the Power def in Psionc Pow seems to work differently. also it does not say only one per turn & thats a petty important piece of info. I would think that if it was only 1 per turn it would say so.
The rules in Psionic Powers were derived from the ones in Powers, and the safest assumption is that they should work the same except where explicitly noted. You can try emailing or PMing RPK if you're still uncertain.
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Old 01-14-2011, 10:21 AM   #7
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The rules in Psionic Powers were derived from the ones in Powers, and the safest assumption is that they should work the same except where explicitly noted...
GURPS Psionic Powers doesn't require GURPS Powers, just the Basic Set, so you should assume that the rules in Psionic Powers are what they say. In this case, a Psionic Powers power defense is "... treated as an active defense ..." and makes no mention of limits on, or penalties for, multiple uses per turn.

That said, limiting players to one power defense per turn makes a lot of sense to me.
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Old 01-14-2011, 10:43 AM   #8
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GURPS Psionic Powers is a Setting specific worked ample of GURPS Powers.
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Old 01-14-2011, 12:56 PM   #9
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GURPS Psionic Powers doesn't require GURPS Powers, just the Basic Set, so you should assume that the rules in Psionic Powers are what they say. In this case, a Psionic Powers power defense is "... treated as an active defense ..." and makes no mention of limits on, or penalties for, multiple uses per turn.
This is what I belive to be true too. I just figured I'd check with the hive-mind.

Rouge, Im unclear as to whom youre agreeing with. Munin or Shrubb?
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1) Can one use FP to get a bonus to the roll as in other defecces?
You mean using Feverish Defense extra effort? Sure, I'd allow that.

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2) Is there any penalty for useing it more than once in a turn (like a parry has)?
Argh -- my intent was that you can only use it once per turn, period, much like a block (pre-Martial-Arts, that is). I didn't state as much, but that was my assumption. Sorry. :)

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3) What effect does armor devisors have on the damage blocked?
None. This is, in fact, exactly why I used AP bullets in the example -- to make that clear.
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