What is the new Low Tech like? - Page 26

Icelander · 10-09-2010, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by whswhs

In fact, I believe we eventually concluded that there was no way to do both. That's about when I bowed out. Kromm has the ability to forget the physics he knows (which goes a lot farther than mine) and think about gaming abstractions; I have trouble doing that. I think what Kromm and my co-authors eventually ended up with went for gameability big time, but I have trouble making sense of it.

Bill Stoddard

In which case we might feel obliged to feel bad about it, but since Kromm himsef appears in the example, we ought to feel relieved and overjoyed about it. ;)

Kuroshima · 10-10-2010, 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Stripe

Are these the rules you're talking about: http://forums.sjgames.com/showpost.p...05&postcount=9

Nope. If they don't end up in the Companion (I have no idea on how it ended) I will probably release my ideas on the wild.

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Originally Posted by whswhs

In fact, I believe we eventually concluded that there was no way to do both. That's about when I bowed out. Kromm has the ability to forget the physics he knows (which goes a lot farther than mine) and think about gaming abstractions; I have trouble doing that. I think what Kromm and my co-authors eventually ended up with went for gameability big time, but I have trouble making sense of it.

Bill Stoddard

Now, this makes me think that my ideas are not going to get into the book... I was taking the square-cube law as the basis for my scaling proposal...

Polydamas · 10-10-2010, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Flyndaran

Gaming "realism" vs. square-cube scaling must have been a bitch.

Especially since GURPS melee weapon stats have always been impressionistic (chosen by instinct and tradition and comparison with other weapons, not by formulas like gun stats), and there isn't a lot of scientific research into what size of sword would work best for a giant or halfling. Bill summarized the discussion better than I can.

Peter V. Dell'Orto · 10-10-2010, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by whswhs

I think what Kromm and my co-authors eventually ended up with went for gameability big time

That's pretty much what happened.

Although I honestly can't remember what the heck we settled on - and my USB key drive and Low-Tech draft files are at home...so I can't even tell you. I don't remember what we settled on. It was hard to hash out because "realistic" meant some level of "difficult and not especially gameable" and the reverse was also true. It would have been odd to have 25' giants ignoring the cube-square law and then using swords that followed it, and I think we decided that giant swords are for fantasy giants anyway...and the rules should go more "gameable" than "realistic" where those conflicted.

That's from memory, and it was a hell-like section for a mathophobe like me to get through so I think I blocked out a lot of the trauma. I expect a fair amount of people will complain how it totally sucks both a) before and b) after they see it, but hopefully for everyone else it'll just be good enough!

zilkoski · 10-12-2010, 02:40 AM

Looks like we now can have a first glimpse at the incoming book... and, much more importantly, preorder it! Yay!

http://www.warehouse23.com/item.html?id=SJG01-0108

Mercator · 10-12-2010, 03:52 AM

Great cover!

However, the link to the official home page leads to the older Low-Tech. I have sent an e-mail to W23 suggesting they fix it.

M.

demonsbane · 10-12-2010, 05:33 AM

Finally. And yes, it's a great cover.

OldSam · 10-12-2010, 05:55 AM

Really great job with the cover artwork! *thumbs up*
IMO it is even the best looking cover of all the tech books (and way better than that of the old Low-Tech)

Phil Masters · 10-12-2010, 06:08 AM

Aah, no Gulth?

pyratejohn · 10-12-2010, 06:56 AM

At least not the original Gulth. I suppose the guy in the lower-left could be the new 4e Gulth.

10-12-2010, 02:40 AM	#255
zilkoski Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Le Havre (France)	Re: What is the new Low Tech like? Looks like we now can have a first glimpse at the incoming book... and, much more importantly, preorder it! Yay! http://www.warehouse23.com/item.html?id=SJG01-0108 Last edited by zilkoski; 10-12-2010 at 03:13 AM.

10-12-2010, 03:52 AM	#256
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10-12-2010, 05:55 AM	#258
OldSam Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Göttingen, Germany	Re: What is the new Low Tech like? Really great job with the cover artwork! thumbs up IMO it is even the best looking cover of all the tech books (and way better than that of the old Low-Tech)

10-12-2010, 06:08 AM	#259
Phil Masters Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: U.K.	Re: What is the new Low Tech like? Aah, no Gulth? __________________ -- Phil Masters My Home Page. My Self-Publications: On Warehouse 23 and On DriveThruRPG.

10-12-2010, 06:56 AM	#260
pyratejohn Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Columbia, Maryland	Re: What is the new Low Tech like? At least not the original Gulth. I suppose the guy in the lower-left could be the new 4e Gulth. __________________ Happily RPGing since 1976. My Gaming and Reenacting Site (under construction)