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If Germany does conquer Russia, Japan is likely to try something in the Soviet Far East. Does this take resources away from the land war in China or the Navy? The latter perhaps not, as inter-service rivalry was a big deal in that era. The League prevented fascist victory in Spain and delayed war in Europe. What did it do in the Pacific? Were Japanese wars in China delayed or prevented? Were there more effective naval limitation treaties?
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Join Date: Feb 2011
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Twilight: 2000 seems like it would fit in as worldline easily. Any thoughts on what homeline et al would want to do with it?
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There were various treaties trying to limit the number and size of warships between the wars. The Japanese eventually got fed up with being told they had to have smaller navies than the UK and US, and renounced them. With the US in the LoN, I assume that the isolationist tendency in the US was less prominent. From that I am proposing: The LoN has some effectiveness at impeding the Japanese drive to conquer their own overseas empire, while helping the other members keep their existing overseas empires. So Japan is even more resentful of being held back from their destiny. They formally stay in longer because the LoN is stronger, but they really don't like it. Their conquests in China are delayed and less blatant. The border conflicts with Soviet Union get more resources from Japan, and are longer and bloodier. A peace settlement is reached, but the Soviet victory is less clear, and the situation remains tense. This means that when or if Germany does attack the USSR, the forces on that front can't be pulled away as they were in OTL. With a less isolationist Congress more willing to spend money on the Navy, and Japan more annoyed, the naval limitations treaties are much less effective. They are nominally limiting tonnage and ship counts, but the limits are higher. One divergent effect of this is that aircraft carriers are less common, because you don't get half-built cruisers or battleships converted into carriers as in OTL. So carriers are smaller. There are fewer submarines because you can't afford everything. So when or if the naval war in the Pacific does come, it works out differently since there are more big gun ships and fewer aircraft carriers. Separately, if WWII is delayed, Indian nationalism has more time to build, meaning more trouble for the UK. Would there be more trouble in other overseas colonies? (I am tempted to have WWII in this time line start in the Pacific instead of Europe, but maybe another timeline.)
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True. OTOH I can claim it wasn't *world* war until December 1941. But then you get into problems about WWI...
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Join Date: Dec 2012
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It could also be argued that WWI and WWII were one war, just with an 'armistice for twenty years' in the middle.
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He did have legal authority to do that, just about, but it was a very poor political move, and the regional governments mostly resigned because of it. If the outbreak of war for the UK is delayed a couple of years, then Linlithgow will very likely have been replaced, simply because he'd been Viceroy since April 1936. There's a good chance that someone more collegial will have the post.
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I dunno, with a three year delay to the war, British rearmament might build up enough to stop the war from breaking out, or just leading to a short curb-stomping of Germany. Especially if Hitler has a less firm grip on the state. If he deferred to his generals, and didn't push for the KO on France, the war could have been drawn out and Hitler would likely face the same fate as the Kaiser. Or if the Little Entente stayed together, and the Allies didn't pursue appeasement and allow Hitler to dismember Czechoslovakia... Well, Germany surrounded and engulfed is certainly a possibility.
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Giving aid would be a great cover for gathering information. In fact giving EFFECTIVE aid would require gathering a great deal of the information Homeline would want. Centrum would want similar things plus find ways to gain control. The Cabal might want to restore order in such a way as to have many many strings to pull.
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