02-04-2021, 12:52 PM | #101 | |
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Re: Skills - maybe this game isn't what I'm looking for
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In short, we all agree: As the game is written, lower levels are fine because either you'll never roll against them or you'll always roll at a bonus. A GM is free to insist on higher levels because players will always roll against them and never at a bonus. If so, the GM should (1) warn the players explicitly that they have a quirky take on a game that recommends not doing things that way, (2) specify what skill levels they expect to see, and (3) give out extra points to make their GM habits less unfair to their players by making those skill levels accessible.
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02-04-2021, 12:58 PM | #102 | |
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Re: Skills - maybe this game isn't what I'm looking for
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EDIT: Whoops, ninja'ed by Kromm. Yeah, what he said.
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02-04-2021, 04:51 PM | #103 | |
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Re: Skills - maybe this game isn't what I'm looking for
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Realistically I don't think there are a lot of NPC's walking around the world that are getting by depending on a skill of 11. At least not for long. |
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02-04-2021, 06:18 PM | #104 | |
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02-04-2021, 06:33 PM | #105 | |
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02-04-2021, 07:19 PM | #106 | |
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Re: Skills - maybe this game isn't what I'm looking for
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Our horse that did that knew quite a few tricks for discomforting or outright removing riders. Of course the simplest is effectively impossible to resist if the horse is determined - they find a tree that has just enough clearance for them (and the saddle, if any) and walk under it, scraping the rider off.
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02-04-2021, 08:28 PM | #107 |
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Re: Skills - maybe this game isn't what I'm looking for
While my mom can do the trick with fixing the girth while sitting on the horse, she has a lot of experience, and it is difficult enough that it would probably require a Riding roll at a -2 penalty to avoid falling off (worse if the horse is inexperienced and/or if you are experiencing inclement weather). I would say that attempting that stunt with a young horse in a driving rain would require a Riding roll at -6 to avoid ending up in the mud. Of course, riding around without a tightened girth will likely end up with you in the mud as well, as a loose saddle is probably going to inflict a -2 to Riding rolls, so it might be worth the risk.
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02-04-2021, 09:59 PM | #108 |
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Re: Skills - maybe this game isn't what I'm looking for
Honestly, with a GM like that, I'm afraid I'd start telling him "I'll be taking an hour to mount my horse safely"
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02-05-2021, 01:21 AM | #109 |
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Re: Skills - maybe this game isn't what I'm looking for
@Varyon & @Kromm
Ah, my bad. It was late and I did a poor job reading the comment I was replying to. Sorry about that.
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02-05-2021, 01:53 AM | #110 | |
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Re: Skills - maybe this game isn't what I'm looking for
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To be fair to anyone making that mistake, Characters does expressly say to do so: "Make a skill roll when you first try to mount a riding animal" It's still the wrong call, but it's not hard to see how it could happen.
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