Size modifier in melee?

[roguebfl]

Originally Posted by jamesfoxbr

The FAQ is not a official Role book... -_-""
In Gurps Basic Set Campaigns say about the sizer modifier ONLY in Ranged Combat, and ONLY Ranger Combat table in the end of book. It's simple!

wrong it does not say only ranged. B19 "It is a modifier to rolls to hit you in combat and vision rolls made to spot you" not it dis not say ranged comba, but combat in general.

the Campains says about size moderer, is p402 where to also says SM appliues to grabbples..a form of melee.

and agaisn on p550 it talk about hitting in general, no qualifier to range only

and earler on the same page "the main use for this table is range combat but the GM can use it for Sense rolls and other success rolls that size, speed or range might believably affect."

[RogerBacon]

Originally Posted by jamesfoxbr

The FAQ is not a official Role book... -_-""

Official book? What is this an olympic sport? It's a game. Do waht you want. No rule is more offical than any other. Once you've bought the game play it the way you like.

I think one of the strengths of GURPS is that it is very detailed and logical. It's not perfect though. Some people, like in this case T-bone, have extrapolated on the basic rules in areas they are interested in and have made the game better (IMHO).

[sir_pudding]

Originally Posted by jamesfoxbr

The FAQ is not a official Role book... -_-""

Interestingly though, Powers is and contains the very same clarification.

In Gurps Basic Set Campaigns say about the sizer modifier ONLY in Ranged Combat, and ONLY Ranger Combat table in the end of book. It's simple!

Feel free to run your games that way, but you may discover that it doesn't really work. FREX if a player attacks a creature with "Eyes like dinner plates" they are going to be curious why they are still at -9 to hit them, or if two pixies go at it they are going to be irritated with the massive penalties to hit each other.

[tbone]

Originally Posted by jamesfoxbr

The FAQ is not a official Role book... -_-""
In Gurps Basic Set Campaigns say about the sizer modifier ONLY in Ranged Combat, and ONLY Ranger Combat table in the end of book. It's simple!

It's simple in that the RAW really screws up melee, plain and simple. : ) All you need to do is look at two insects fighting under RAW – or not fighting, as it turns out, as they're utterly unable to hit each other.

Really, relative SM in melee needs to be looked at as a special case of "absolutely, definitely correct, whether GURPS realizes it or not". : )

(Related discussion at http://www.gamesdiner.com/guths for the curious.)

[sir_pudding]

Originally Posted by tbone

It's simple in that the RAW really screws up melee, plain and simple. : ) All you need to do is look at two insects fighting under RAW – or not fighting, as it turns out, as they're utterly unable to hit each other.

The RAW is to use relative size modifiers in melee.

[Ludo]

Originally Posted by sir pudding

The RAW is to use relative size modifiers in melee.

Backing it, I think one can find the word "addendum" in the FAQ on this topic.

Additionally, I'm curious on how one can conceive a fight between characters with a huge difference in SM... I would not resolve such an encounter with fighting rules, I do not know exactly how, but it sounds ridiculous to me to have a SM +8 monster fight against a SM 0 human beings... What ? SM 0 slams monster and grapples, then takes down and apply a triangle choke?!!

[Anders]

Size matters not. Judge me by my size, will you?

someone had to say it.

[Ludo]

Originally Posted by Asta Kask

Size matters not. Judge me by my size, will you?

someone had to say it.

Yeah, but this is what you say when you have a hem, ahem, small, hem, you know what I mean. ;-)

[tbone]

Originally Posted by sir_pudding

The RAW is to use relative size modifiers in melee.

Not RAW as in "published in a book". Using Basic Set alone, there's no relative SM as a TH mod in melee.

It's an "official option" in a FAQ, or was; maybe it's been "upgraded" in the meantime?

[Icelander]

Originally Posted by tbone

Not RAW as in "published in a book". Using Basic Set alone, there's no relative SM as a TH mod in melee.

It's an "official option" in a FAQ, or was; maybe it's been "upgraded" in the meantime?

It's in Powers, which I believe counts as RAW.