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Old 07-13-2019, 01:01 PM   #31
Plane
 
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Default Re: What is the default for punching someone?

Do you remember which 3e book had the +4 to hit stationary?

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Originally Posted by Rupert View Post
In 3e it was also used to attack an unaware person, but in 4e that's covered by Telegraphic Attack (or, pre-MA, by taking three Evaluates).
3 evaluates is only +3 of course.

If there's an error in the rules, it's that the +4 for Telegraphic Attack probably should stack with Evaluate. If a perk lets you combine AOA:Strong and Mighty Blows, a perk sounds right to combine these too.

Dungeon Fantasy 11 both pg 11 (Dirty Fighting) and 35 (First Strike) have some similar ideas with perks to hit the unaware better.
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