Star Munchkin: Clown Wars - Garage Door Opener Question

[n0a4]

I have a question on using this card...

The way the card works is you discard 3 cards, or that card, to close a JUST OPENED door card. Or discard any JUST REVEALED MONSTER OR ROOM cards.

Now if someone plays a monster card on another person in combat with wandering monster or whatever card lets you do that... the garage door opener should be able to discard the JUST REVEALED MONSTER right? same with any rooms played by people.

If someone is fighting a monster and another player adds a +5 to monster, which is a door card, the garage door opener shouldn't be able to "close" this card since it was played by a player and not opened from the deck... it doesn't say anywhere on the card about discarding just revealed doors, only closing just OPENED doors.

The argument is that if the garage door opener can close just revealed monster/room cards played by people, it should be able to "close" any door card that has been just revealed by other players.

[uttwich]

Don't have Star Munchkin, but it sounds like you would have to play your card before anybody does anything else? Assuming that would be the case since once someone plays a modifier, wandering monster, etc., the door would no longer be "just opened".

[thedag]

Originally Posted by n0a4

I have a question on using this card...

The way the card works is you discard 3 cards, or that card, to close a JUST OPENED door card. Or discard any JUST REVEALED MONSTER OR ROOM cards.

Now if someone plays a monster card on another person in combat with wandering monster or whatever card lets you do that... the garage door opener should be able to discard the JUST REVEALED MONSTER right? same with any rooms played by people.

If someone is fighting a monster and another player adds a +5 to monster, which is a door card, the garage door opener shouldn't be able to "close" this card since it was played by a player and not opened from the deck... it doesn't say anywhere on the card about discarding just revealed doors, only closing just OPENED doors.

The argument is that if the garage door opener can close just revealed monster/room cards played by people, it should be able to "close" any door card that has been just revealed by other players.

Ok I don't have this deck but I want to clarify something in your post. How is a wandering monster played by another player different to the +5 to monster? Both have been played by players and not opened from the deck haven't they or am I missing something by not owning this game?

If it only works on cards from the deck then it would not work on wandering monster. I also tend to think it would not work on a wandering monster because that is two cards (the wandering monster card plus the actual monster). Anyway wait for an official reply.

[n0a4]

Originally Posted by thedag

Ok I don't have this deck but I want to clarify something in your post. How is a wandering monster played by another player different to the +5 to monster? Both have been played by players and not opened from the deck haven't they or am I missing something by not owning this game?

If it only works on cards from the deck then it would not work on wandering monster. I also tend to think it would not work on a wandering monster because that is two cards (the wandering monster card plus the actual monster). Anyway wait for an official reply.

well, the card says "discard a just OPENED door" and also says "discard a just REVEALED monster", we just assumed that since adding a wandering monster on someone would count as "just REVEALED monster"... you can use the card. A player playing a +5 to monster door card isn't revealing a monster or opening a door.

[MunchkinMan]

The intent of GDO is to only affect a Monster or Room found by opening a door, not by some other playing a card. I believe the word "reveal" was used to be different (i.e., not repetitive) and ended up causing some level of confusion.

However (I hate doing this), I feel SJ and I discussed this card a long time back about how it might affect a Monster someone is fighting by looking for trouble. I'll have to dig around here and my e-mail to see if I can find how that discussion was resolved. If Andrew has any insight, that would help, too.

[n0a4]

Originally Posted by MunchkinMan

The intent of GDO is to only affect a Monster or Room found by opening a door, not by some other playing a card. I believe the word "reveal" was used to be different (i.e., not repetitive) and ended up causing some level of confusion.

However (I hate doing this), I feel SJ and I discussed this card a long time back about how it might affect a Monster someone is fighting by looking for trouble. I'll have to dig around here and my e-mail to see if I can find how that discussion was resolved. If Andrew has any insight, that would help, too.

It didn't make sense though for the card to continue mentioning discarding just revealed monster/room cards, wouldn't it just stop at the first line "use this card to close a just opened door card"?

[MunchkinMan]

Which is why I need to look through my e-mail and search through earlier posts here. I want to check if wording changes have happened and the like. Unfortunately, this is not a process that can be sped up and I'm working at the moment, so it's not going to happen as quickly as either of us would like. :-(

[n0a4]

Originally Posted by MunchkinMan

Which is why I need to look through my e-mail and search through earlier posts here. I want to check if wording changes have happened and the like. Unfortunately, this is not a process that can be sped up and I'm working at the moment, so it's not going to happen as quickly as either of us would like. :-(

No rush, just trying to clear up any confusions to how we've been using this card. Didn't intend to make this thread sound like it needs to be solved immediately

[Andrew Hackard]

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