No fine manipulators and low ST

[jackcelso]

Hi, I need help with a doubt.
If a character has ST 5 and no fine manipulators will the ST cost be -50 or -30?

In gurps dungeon fantasy allys the salamander has -50 points the gurps GCS program put it at -30.

which is the correct?

[Sorenant]

NFM gives discount to ST because it prevents the character from enjoying the superior swing damage, so reduced ST is still worth -10 points.

[jackcelso]

Originally Posted by Sorenant

NFM gives discount to ST because it prevents the character from enjoying the superior swing damage, so reduced ST is still worth -10 points.

Thanks very much!!!

[Plane]

Originally Posted by Sorenant

NFM gives discount to ST because it prevents the character from enjoying the superior swing damage, so reduced ST is still worth -10 points.

There's also stuff like not being able to use heavier guns, or the damage bonus from thrust weapons.

[Witchking]

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