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Old 01-01-2017, 01:23 PM   #1
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Default What the smeg is Red Dwarf's TL?

They have sentient AI (including toasters), artificial gravity, but they don't seem to have very advanced weapons.
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Old 01-01-2017, 01:59 PM   #2
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Compact sentient AI is going to be TL10 or better as a rule. Artificial gravity (other than spin gravity, which is about TL7) is TL^. Sounds like they might be low TL in weapons, though they could also be high TL in computers...

(Or they could be a mish-mash with no particular coherent sense to it assembled for comedy and convenience of writing and filming. That might be the case.)
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Old 01-01-2017, 02:31 PM   #3
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The Red Dwarf itself didn't have compact A.I. It took the entire ship to allow a single A.I. other than the main one. That was a big part of the show's premise after all.
For a season or two, it only had "basic" superscience holographic tech as well, before "hard light" was used.
I never realized how much Star Trek Voyager stole from that show until just now.
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For weapons keep in mind the Red Dwarf was a civilian mining ship. I doubt they'd have the most advanced weapons on board.
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Old 01-01-2017, 02:36 PM   #5
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And that the show technically dealt with numerous species over a time frame of over one million years. I don't think even a realistic setting would have coherent tech for that long of a period.
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For weapons keep in mind the Red Dwarf was a civilian mining ship. I doubt they'd have the most advanced weapons on board.
True. In fact, the weapons they did have were repurposed mining tools.
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Old 01-01-2017, 03:37 PM   #7
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The Red Dwarf itself didn't have compact A.I. It took the entire ship to allow a single A.I. other than the main one. That was a big part of the show's premise after all.
For a season or two, it only had "basic" superscience holographic tech as well, before "hard light" was used.
I never realized how much Star Trek Voyager stole from that show until just now.
OTOH Kryten's AI is entirely self-contained.
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OTOH Kryten's AI is entirely self-contained.
He was created after Lister was frozen, wasn't he? It's just more evidence that the show covers too much time to expect coherent tech levels even if it wasn't all for comedic value.
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Old 01-03-2017, 09:54 AM   #9
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Whenever someone says "What TL is XYZ" I point them to this part of GURPS Campaigns B.511.

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Realistic societies rarely have the same TL in every field of endeavor; they tend to be advanced in some fields, backward in others. GMs who desire extra detail can rate each society for its TL in a few key areas.
If you can't nail down a single TL for something there might be a reason...
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Old 01-03-2017, 10:10 AM   #10
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Additionally, why do you want to know? Its possible to play a setting without properly defining the TL. Some books even suggest using increased TLs that merely raise the stats on existing technology without adding anything new.

Ultra tech additionally requires a lot more editing to match a specific setting properly: Everyone has a different future.
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