01-04-2021, 08:58 PM | #21 | |
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Re: Melding Beam Weapons and Guns
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Laser cannons are a Gunner Skill. I don't see how Beam Weapons and Guns can reasonably be the same Skills. We tend to look at it for defualts going from Guns to Lasers but what about the other way? There probably shouldn't be a Default from Lasers to guns. A future man whod never seen a gun at first hand or even seen it fired in a detailed and realistic video probably shouldn't be given a Default from Attribute.
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01-04-2021, 09:16 PM | #22 | ||
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How much trouble would your future man have using a Gauss Minineedler from the same TL if he'd never seen one? Would he need different skills to use a laser pistol and a gauss pistol made by the same manufacturer with the same profile?
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01-05-2021, 12:02 AM | #23 | ||
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There's two very separate things gun skill is used for, really. One is the primary application of shooting the thing accurately. I can't see any reason that would necessitate any real familiarity with firearms, as opposed to with the ergonomics of a gun-shaped object. In most settings handheld beam weapons remain gun-shaped objects, and that's probably justified. I see no reason somebody who uses a laser pistol couldn't use a ready handgun with literally the exact same technique and get passable results (though recoil might come as a nasty shock). On the other hand, there's the secondary but undeniably critical 'armory-lite' aspect of dealing with firearm mechanics outside of the shot itself. Having no idea about cocking a single-action weapon, not knowing how to reload, and so forth could certainly be issues for someone with no familiarity with firearms.
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01-05-2021, 07:29 AM | #24 |
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Re: Melding Beam Weapons and Guns
I don't know about melding beam weapons and gnus, but here's a possible version with a buffalo:
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01-05-2021, 10:30 AM | #25 |
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Re: Melding Beam Weapons and Guns
A powerful laser would have a reaction, but it would be a constant tug instead of a jerky recoil.
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01-05-2021, 10:45 AM | #26 |
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Re: Melding Beam Weapons and Guns
There was a Pyramid article that tried to simplify the Guns skill. It basically got rid of the existing specializations, and replaced them with how you hold/use the weapon: Pistol, Long Arm (i.e. rifles), and Shoulder-Mounted.
It then went to add a whole bunch of cumulative familiarity modifiers: caliber, ignition, action/mechanism (automatic vs pump), handling, sights, feed, etc. I'd have to re-find the article to get the full list and nuances. Personally, I think this method works perfectly fine for adding Beam Weapons into the mix as well. Just plug in where a beam weapon differs from a non-beam weapon into the familiarity penalty lists. You can even distinguish between beam weapons if a laser is different from a blaster or sonic disruptor. |
01-05-2021, 11:14 AM | #27 |
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I would have to be insanely powerful for the reaction to be noticed.
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01-05-2021, 11:32 AM | #28 | ||
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01-05-2021, 11:59 AM | #29 |
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Re: Melding Beam Weapons and Guns
Pyramid 3/65.
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01-05-2021, 12:39 PM | #30 |
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Re: Melding Beam Weapons and Guns
I had a powerful photographic flashgun that had slight, but detectable recoil. This was due to it heating up the air in front of its output window, but you'd get a similar effect with a powerful pulsed laser.
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