Where are things on Cidri? Elynthia, Red Plains, and the Land Beyond the Mountains

pzmcgwire · 06-27-2021, 07:50 PM

So from Ardonirane, we know the Duchy of Kel is to the northeast and is the closest part of Southern Elyntiha to the Red Plains.

Where was it stated where the Land Beyond the Mountains (Darok, Dihad, etc.) was in relation to Elynthia?

Does anyone know the provenance of this partial Cidri map which shows Elyntia?

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-kMm0_HxG5...+Chart_510.jpg

This is from: https://chroniclesofcidri.blogspot.com/p/cidri.html, which reproduces the original Cidri essay from the first ITL.

hcobb · 06-28-2021, 06:58 AM

I've pinned down one point on the southwest corner of the continent on which Elynthia sits in Adventures 2.

larsdangly · 06-28-2021, 08:37 AM

I have to admit that, despite the huge amount of local to regional scale material I have developed over the years for my Cidri campaign, I have a very loose set of thoughts about what it would all look like at a bigger scale. ca. 1980 I set out to create such a multi-continent map of my version of Cidri but sort of lost steam. Perhaps because it mostly doesn't come up in play. Maybe my players are unusual, but I can't recall a time when they asked me how they would get somewhere far, far away.

Skarg · 06-28-2021, 04:33 PM

My original TFT campaign expanded far around the Dran map in all directions, and one of the main goals of play for several of my players was to explore the world and find out where things were, collect maps and so on, during play. Maps were pretty much the favorite type of loot. Since they were never perfect and sometimes revealed unknown things, even maps of the same places were interesting, to possibly reveal new details or errors on other maps.

And I've played and seen several quite different versions of what's in and around Dran and Elyntia since then. Few of which are compatible with each other.

Finding out what else is beyond the PCs' starting knowledge therefore strikes me as something to discover in play, rather than something to establish and learn outside play.

JohnPaulB · 06-28-2021, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Skarg

And I've played and seen several quite different versions of what's in and around Dran and Elyntia since then. Few of which are compatible with each other.

If they overlap but are incompatible, they must be on an alternate Cidri, which may allow for Gate Crossing.

Skarg · 06-29-2021, 10:30 AM

Yes, that's one of the reasons I tend to think Cidri may mainly consist of many relatively Earth-sized planets linked by gates.

Shostak · 06-29-2021, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Skarg

Yes, that's one of the reasons I tend to think Cidri may mainly consist of many relatively Earth-sized planets linked by gates.

If they all are alternative Earths with the same sky, it could make navigation by the stars ... interesting. And if natural gates can be found along routes, having a guide might be necessary to avoid accidentally taking a gate to an unintended destination.

Steve Plambeck · 06-30-2021, 07:26 PM

There's a quest in there. Finding your way back to your true "home" world among so many similar possibilities. Roger Zelazny already used the idea though :)

hcobb · 06-30-2021, 08:18 PM

Is the number of worlds that make up Cidri finite or constant?

JustAnotherJarhead · 07-25-2021, 06:50 AM

The whole "multiple Cidri" concept brings into question a lot of things, for starters Nautical navigation via stars.

I like a simpler concept that Cidri is just huge, so huge that Gates aren't just a thing, but a required thing in a technology of wheeled carts and wind powered vessels.

Keeping the stars real and constant, seems fairly important to consistent adventuring.

06-27-2021, 07:50 PM	#1
pzmcgwire Join Date: May 2018	Where are things on Cidri? Elynthia, Red Plains, and the Land Beyond the Mountains So from Ardonirane, we know the Duchy of Kel is to the northeast and is the closest part of Southern Elyntiha to the Red Plains. Where was it stated where the Land Beyond the Mountains (Darok, Dihad, etc.) was in relation to Elynthia? Does anyone know the provenance of this partial Cidri map which shows Elyntia? https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-kMm0_HxG5...+Chart_510.jpg This is from: https://chroniclesofcidri.blogspot.com/p/cidri.html, which reproduces the original Cidri essay from the first ITL. Last edited by pzmcgwire; 06-27-2021 at 08:31 PM.

06-28-2021, 06:58 AM	#2
hcobb Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Pacheco, California	Re: Where are things on Cidri? Elynthia, Red Plains, and the Land Beyond the Mountain I've pinned down one point on the southwest corner of the continent on which Elynthia sits in Adventures 2. __________________ -HJC

06-28-2021, 08:37 AM	#3
larsdangly Join Date: Dec 2017	Re: Where are things on Cidri? Elynthia, Red Plains, and the Land Beyond the Mountain I have to admit that, despite the huge amount of local to regional scale material I have developed over the years for my Cidri campaign, I have a very loose set of thoughts about what it would all look like at a bigger scale. ca. 1980 I set out to create such a multi-continent map of my version of Cidri but sort of lost steam. Perhaps because it mostly doesn't come up in play. Maybe my players are unusual, but I can't recall a time when they asked me how they would get somewhere far, far away.

06-28-2021, 04:33 PM	#4
Skarg Join Date: May 2015	Re: Where are things on Cidri? Elynthia, Red Plains, and the Land Beyond the Mountain My original TFT campaign expanded far around the Dran map in all directions, and one of the main goals of play for several of my players was to explore the world and find out where things were, collect maps and so on, during play. Maps were pretty much the favorite type of loot. Since they were never perfect and sometimes revealed unknown things, even maps of the same places were interesting, to possibly reveal new details or errors on other maps. And I've played and seen several quite different versions of what's in and around Dran and Elyntia since then. Few of which are compatible with each other. Finding out what else is beyond the PCs' starting knowledge therefore strikes me as something to discover in play, rather than something to establish and learn outside play.

06-29-2021, 10:30 AM	#6
Skarg Join Date: May 2015	Re: Where are things on Cidri? Elynthia, Red Plains, and the Land Beyond the Mountain Yes, that's one of the reasons I tend to think Cidri may mainly consist of many relatively Earth-sized planets linked by gates.

06-30-2021, 07:26 PM	#8
Steve Plambeck Join Date: Jun 2019	Re: Where are things on Cidri? Elynthia, Red Plains, and the Land Beyond the Mountain There's a quest in there. Finding your way back to your true "home" world among so many similar possibilities. Roger Zelazny already used the idea though :) __________________ "I'm not arguing. I'm just explaining why I'm right."

06-30-2021, 08:18 PM	#9
hcobb Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Pacheco, California	Re: Where are things on Cidri? Elynthia, Red Plains, and the Land Beyond the Mountain Is the number of worlds that make up Cidri finite or constant? __________________ -HJC

07-25-2021, 06:50 AM	#10
JustAnotherJarhead Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Cali	Re: Where are things on Cidri? Elynthia, Red Plains, and the Land Beyond the Mountain The whole "multiple Cidri" concept brings into question a lot of things, for starters Nautical navigation via stars. I like a simpler concept that Cidri is just huge, so huge that Gates aren't just a thing, but a required thing in a technology of wheeled carts and wind powered vessels. Keeping the stars real and constant, seems fairly important to consistent adventuring.