08-08-2012, 01:54 AM | #11 | |
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Then you also have to wonder at that point if you couldn't have achieved similar effects with the original advantage as a base and appropriate limitations, still for cheaper. And what you might be left with for all the effort would be something that, 9 times out of ten, might be as beneficial overall as a perk (depending on base advantage and level, and how often, with all those limitations, you can actually get the benefits when it counts).
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08-08-2012, 09:50 AM | #12 | |
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Here is an Example: You want Immunity to Heat and Damage Resistance (Limited to Fire). You build them as alternative abilities. Now you can't use both at once. If you turned on Immunity to Heat then Damage Resistance (Limited to Fire), Immunity to Heat would shut down. Kind of crappy if you are jumping into an environment full of fire hazards. Now if you build Afflictions that granted each of these abilities. You build them as alternative abilities. You use Affliction (Immunity to Heat) and grant the ability to yourself, then you use Affliction (Damage Resistance (Limited to Fire)) and grant this ability. Then you jump into an environment full of fire hazards. You have both abilities active and can renew them both periodically to maintain your protection. The point is the granted abilities don't shut each other down. Last edited by Azrael; 08-08-2012 at 09:56 AM. |
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08-08-2012, 09:58 AM | #13 | |
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08-08-2012, 10:46 AM | #14 | |
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I do like the way Afflictions work as abilities. I like that fact that duration can depend on Margin of Success (With Maledictions, and Optional Affliction rules from powers). I like that the effect could also be tied to Margin of Success using Margin-Based from Creatures of the Night 1. The thing I didn't like was the higher cost of Afflictions, making it ridiculously expensive to base a magic system on it. So I sought out a way to lower the cost. Last edited by Azrael; 08-08-2012 at 10:50 AM. |
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08-08-2012, 11:44 AM | #15 |
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Re: Affect Self Only Limitation
Along the lines of the original topic, what would Affects Others Only cost? For a disadvantageous Affliction I would guess -0%. Disadvantageous Afflictions are generally used on others anyway. For a beneficial Affliction I might place it at -50%, same as Affects Self Only. Anyone else have an opinion?
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08-08-2012, 04:24 PM | #16 | |
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08-08-2012, 04:37 PM | #17 |
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Afflictions last for minutes, not seconds, and switching Alternate abilities requires a Ready action. Switching Alternative Attacks is a free action, and firing an affliction is an attack (Which you can have multiple of, and do a Move and attack, and other more flexible options).
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08-08-2012, 04:43 PM | #18 |
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An interesting idea for sure. I definitely wouldn't have thought of it. I don't know if it defeats the point of Alternate Abilities altogether though? Anyway, its not quite what I'm looking for. But thanks for the suggestion.
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08-08-2012, 04:43 PM | #19 | |
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I am on the record as thinking the way Malediction interacts with Affliction means it should cost twice as much when applied to Affliction, I personally think, but that's not RAW either.
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