More guns...

Sam Baughn · 02-28-2011, 09:44 AM

GURPS already has stats for a huge amount of firearms, but that's no reason not to stat up even more of them, just in case someone really wants to be different. So, here are some I wrote up. Feel free to add your own.

Disclaimer: I'm not an expert on guns in any way. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that I'm hugely ignorant on the subject. Pretty much everything I know I learnt from GURPS books and the internet, so there is lots of room for error. Many of the following write-ups include significant amounts of guesswork with regard to details, especially cost. Corrections are welcome.

KBP PP-2000, 9x19mm+P+ (Russia, 2004-)

The Pistolet Pulemet-2000 is a personal defence weapon mainly intended for police and special operations forces. It is designed specifically to use high-pressure ammunition (p. HT165), such as the 7N31 armour-piercing round (listed in table). When firing standard 9x19mm ammunition, Damage is 2d+2 pi, Range is 160/1,800, RoF is 10 and ST is 8†/11.

A 44-round magazine (1.7 lbs.) is also available. When the detachable stock is removed (reducing weight by 0.5 lbs.), a spare 44-round magazine can be mounted behind the weapon, serving as a replacement stock.

Code:

GUNS (SMG) (DX-4 or most other Guns at -2)
TL	Weapon			Damage		Acc	Range		Wt.	RoF	Shots	ST	Bulk 	Rcl 	Cost 		LC 	Notes
8	PP-2000 9x19mm+P+	3d(2) pi-	3	180/2,000	4/0.7	13	20+1(3)	9†/12	-3*	2	$1,200/$30	2	[1][2]

[1] Accessory Rail (p. HT161)
[2] Vertical Foregrip (p. TacS75)

PYa MP-443 Grach, 9x19mm+P+ (Russia, 2003-)

Named after it's designer, Vladimir Yarygin, the Pistolet Yarygina (Yaragin's Pistol) Grach ('Rook') is a military side-arm developed for russian forces. It is designed to fire high-pressure ammunition (p. HT165), such as the 7N31 armour-piercing round (listed in table). When firing standard 9x19mm ammunition, Damage is 2d+2 pi, Range is 160/1,800 and ST is 8.

A derivative weapon intended for civilian use is the MP-446 Viking. This is not intended to be used with high-pressure ammunition (-1 Malf. if this is tried) and comes with a 10-round magazine as standard (although both weapons can take each other's magazines); weight is reduced to 2.2/0.4.

Code:

GUNS (PISTOL) (DX-4 or most other Guns at -2)
TL	Weapon			Damage		Acc	Range		Wt.	RoF	Shots	ST	Bulk 	Rcl 	Cost 		LC 	Notes
8	MP-443 Grach, 9x19mm+P+	3d(2) pi-	2	180/2,000	2.7/0.6	3	17+1(3)	9	-2	2	$600/$25	3

FN Herstal F2000, 5.56x45mm (Belgium, 2001-)

This bullpup rifle is manufactured by Fabrique Nationale d'Herstal. Unlike most bullpup weapons, it is fully ambidextrous, ejecting spent casings forwards. It features top and underside accessory rails which come fitted with a foregrip and a 1.6x magnification, improved-visibility sight (cancels -2 in darkness penalties, 0.5 lbs. weight already included in listed stats) as standard.

The F2000 has not proven popular as a military weapon; the only country to adopt it as a standard service rifle is Slovenia (although several countries have purchased a limited number for use by elite forces). However, it's distinctive and futuristic looks make it popular in video games and films (it features in The Expendables, The Mechanic and Terminator Salvation, among others).

A civilian version with a slightly longer barrel, known as the FS2000, became available in 2006. This changes Damage to 5d pi, RoF to 3 and LC to 3.

Code:

GUNS (RIFLE) (DX-4 or most other Guns at -2)
TL	Weapon			Damage		Acc	Range		Wt.	RoF	Shots	ST	Bulk 	Rcl 	Cost 		LC 	Notes
8	FN F2000, 5.56x45mm	5d-1 pi		5	770/3,200	9/1.1	14	30+1(3)	9†	-4	2	$1,500/$34	2	[1]

[1] Accessory Rails (p. HT161)

PseudoFenton · 03-02-2011, 02:41 AM

These seem perfect for Yuri the Russian to be selling, at a discount obviously. I'll be sure to throw them in as options in my new Supers game =)

Sam Baughn · 04-27-2011, 08:36 AM

Bumping this thread with a couple more examples...

Izhmash AN-94 'Abakan', 5.45x39mm (Russia, 1997-)

The Avtomat Nikonova 94 (named for it's chief designer, Gennadiy Nikonov) is the final product of the Project Abakan advanced assault rifle trials conducted in the USSR in the 1980s, intended to create a replacement for the Kalashnikov series (p. HT114). It is generally more accurate than the AK-74, although also considerably more complex. The high cost and difficulty of maintaining the weapon means that it is generally only issued to elite units in the Russian armed forces, with the Kalashnikov remaining the general-issue service rifle.

The most notable feature of the AN-94 is it's ability to fire 2-round high-cyclic controlled bursts (p. HT83). It uses the same magazines as the AK-74 and can mount many of the same accessories. It has an upper rail for optional telescopic sights and an under-barrel attachment point for mounting a grenade launcher. Unlike the AK-74, it mounts it's bayonet on the side of the barrel, allowing both a bayonet and a grenade launcher to be used at the same time.

Code:


GUNS (RIFLE) (DX-4 or most other Guns at -2)
TL	Weapon			Damage		Acc	Range		Wt.	RoF	Shots	ST	Bulk 	Rcl 	Cost 		LC 	Notes
8	AN-94, 5.45x39mm	4d+2 pi		5	440/3,000	9.7/1.2	6#/10	30+1(3)	9†	-5*	2	$1,500/$28	2	[1]

[1] Accessory Rails

Kel-Tec RFB Carbine, 7.62x51mm (USA, 2008-)

The RFB (Rifle, Forward-ejection, Bullpup) is, as it's name implies, a bullpup format, semi-automatic rifle with a ejection system which pushes spent casings forwards, much like the one on the FN F2000. It was designed to be totaly ambidextrous, with controls usable from either side. It is also well-balanced for holding one-handed (see Tactical Shooting p. 13 for details of the advantages of bullpup weapons for one-handed use).

The RFB can accept 20-round FN FAL magazines ($31, 1.7 lbs.) or 30-round Bren Gun ones ($33, 2.6 lbs.). It does not have iron sights, but does have Picatinny accessory rails.

Kel-Tec has announced plans to manufacture further variants of the RFB; a 'Sporter' with a 24" barrel (Damage 7d, Acc 5, Range 1,000/4,200, Wt 9.6/0.9, Bulk -5) and a Target Rifle (Damage 7d, Acc 6, Range 1,000/4,200, Wt 12.2/0.9, ST 10†, Bulk -6) with a heavy 32" barrel.

Code:


GUNS (RIFLE) (DX-4 or most other Guns at -2)
TL	Weapon			Damage		Acc	Range		Wt.	RoF	Shots	ST	Bulk 	Rcl 	Cost 		LC 	Notes
8	Kel-Tec RFB, 7.62x51mm	6d+2 pi		4	850/3,750	9/0.9	3	10+1(3)	9†	-4	3	$1,800/$20	3	[1]

[1] Accessory Rails

Opellulo · 04-27-2011, 09:28 AM

My Battlefield Bad Company 2 sense is tingling...

Sam Baughn · 04-27-2011, 12:05 PM

Here's a shiny new shotgun which seems likely to crop up in a bunch of films in the near future...

Kel-Tec KSG Shotgun, 12G 2.75" (USA, 2011-)

The KSG is an unusual bullpup shotgun, with two internal tube magazines, each holding 7 shells (one Ready action to switch between magazines). It is a pump-action weapon, with the entire lower forend sliding backwards when pumped. Spent casings are ejected and fresh rounds inserted via a loading/ejection port located under the stock.

The weapon has no standard iron sights, but a Picatinny rail suitable for mounting them is located above the barrel, while a second rail on the lower forend allows the use of vertical foregrips and/or other accessories.

The KSG is not yet available for sale, but is expected to be released in mid-2011.

Code:


GUNS (SHOTGUN) (DX-4 or most other Guns at -2)
TL	Weapon			Damage		Acc	Range		Wt.	RoF	Shots	ST	Bulk 	Rcl 	Cost 		LC 	Notes
8	Kel-Tec KSG, 12G 2.75"	1d+1 pi		2	40/800		8.5/1.6	2x9	14+1(2i)10†	-4	1/5	$1000		3	[1][2]

[1] Accessory Rails
[2] First Rcl figure is for shot, second for slugs.

I'm wondering if I set the damage a little low for the Russian 9mm+P+ rounds; I think they could possibly justify 3d or even a little more.

Diomedes · 04-27-2011, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perfect Organism

Here's a shiny new shotgun which seems likely to crop up in a bunch of films in the near future...

I'm surprised it hasn't cropped up more already, (or its South African predecessor, the Neostad).

lexington · 04-27-2011, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perfect Organism

I'm wondering if I set the damage a little low for the Russian 9mm+P+ rounds; I think they could possibly justify 3d or even a little more.

The 7Н31 is listed by wiki having an energy of 756J which gives it a full 3d(2) pi-.

Sam Cade · 04-27-2011, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diomedes

I'm surprised it hasn't cropped up more already

It doesn't exist beyond pre-production prototypes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diomedes

(or its South African predecessor, the Neostad).

Similarities are only cosmetic, completely different operation.

Diomedes · 04-27-2011, 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam Cade

Similarities are only cosmetic, completely different operation.

In what way? They both seem to be reverse-pump-action, with dual magazines. How many different ways are there to arrange the innards, given that it does have the same shape?

lexington · 04-27-2011, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diomedes

In what way? They both seem to be reverse-pump-action, with dual magazines. How many different ways are there to arrange the innards, given that it does have the same shape?

The KSG has a conventional pump action not a pump forward.

02-28-2011, 09:44 AM	#1
Sam Baughn Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: United Kingdom of Great Britain and some other bits.	More guns... GURPS already has stats for a huge amount of firearms, but that's no reason not to stat up even more of them, just in case someone really wants to be different. So, here are some I wrote up. Feel free to add your own. Disclaimer: I'm not an expert on guns in any way. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that I'm hugely ignorant on the subject. Pretty much everything I know I learnt from GURPS books and the internet, so there is lots of room for error. Many of the following write-ups include significant amounts of guesswork with regard to details, especially cost. Corrections are welcome. KBP PP-2000, 9x19mm+P+ (Russia, 2004-) The Pistolet Pulemet-2000 is a personal defence weapon mainly intended for police and special operations forces. It is designed specifically to use high-pressure ammunition (p. HT165), such as the 7N31 armour-piercing round (listed in table). When firing standard 9x19mm ammunition, Damage is 2d+2 pi, Range is 160/1,800, RoF is 10 and ST is 8†/11. A 44-round magazine (1.7 lbs.) is also available. When the detachable stock is removed (reducing weight by 0.5 lbs.), a spare 44-round magazine can be mounted behind the weapon, serving as a replacement stock. Code: GUNS (SMG) (DX-4 or most other Guns at -2) TL Weapon Damage Acc Range Wt. RoF Shots ST Bulk Rcl Cost LC Notes 8 PP-2000 9x19mm+P+ 3d(2) pi- 3 180/2,000 4/0.7 13 20+1(3) 9†/12 -3* 2 $1,200/$30 2 [1][2] [1] Accessory Rail (p. HT161) [2] Vertical Foregrip (p. TacS75) PYa MP-443 Grach, 9x19mm+P+ (Russia, 2003-) Named after it's designer, Vladimir Yarygin, the Pistolet Yarygina (Yaragin's Pistol) Grach ('Rook') is a military side-arm developed for russian forces. It is designed to fire high-pressure ammunition (p. HT165), such as the 7N31 armour-piercing round (listed in table). When firing standard 9x19mm ammunition, Damage is 2d+2 pi, Range is 160/1,800 and ST is 8. A derivative weapon intended for civilian use is the MP-446 Viking. This is not intended to be used with high-pressure ammunition (-1 Malf. if this is tried) and comes with a 10-round magazine as standard (although both weapons can take each other's magazines); weight is reduced to 2.2/0.4. Code: GUNS (PISTOL) (DX-4 or most other Guns at -2) TL Weapon Damage Acc Range Wt. RoF Shots ST Bulk Rcl Cost LC Notes 8 MP-443 Grach, 9x19mm+P+ 3d(2) pi- 2 180/2,000 2.7/0.6 3 17+1(3) 9 -2 2 $600/$25 3 FN Herstal F2000, 5.56x45mm (Belgium, 2001-) This bullpup rifle is manufactured by Fabrique Nationale d'Herstal. Unlike most bullpup weapons, it is fully ambidextrous, ejecting spent casings forwards. It features top and underside accessory rails which come fitted with a foregrip and a 1.6x magnification, improved-visibility sight (cancels -2 in darkness penalties, 0.5 lbs. weight already included in listed stats) as standard. The F2000 has not proven popular as a military weapon; the only country to adopt it as a standard service rifle is Slovenia (although several countries have purchased a limited number for use by elite forces). However, it's distinctive and futuristic looks make it popular in video games and films (it features in The Expendables, The Mechanic and Terminator Salvation, among others). A civilian version with a slightly longer barrel, known as the FS2000, became available in 2006. This changes Damage to 5d pi, RoF to 3 and LC to 3. Code: GUNS (RIFLE) (DX-4 or most other Guns at -2) TL Weapon Damage Acc Range Wt. RoF Shots ST Bulk Rcl Cost LC Notes 8 FN F2000, 5.56x45mm 5d-1 pi 5 770/3,200 9/1.1 14 30+1(3) 9† -4 2 $1,500/$34 2 [1] [1] Accessory Rails (p. HT161) Last edited by Sam Baughn; 04-28-2011 at 12:57 AM. Reason: tweaked damage

03-02-2011, 02:41 AM	#2
PseudoFenton Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Land of the Britons	Re: More guns... These seem perfect for Yuri the Russian to be selling, at a discount obviously. I'll be sure to throw them in as options in my new Supers game =)

04-27-2011, 08:36 AM	#3
Sam Baughn Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: United Kingdom of Great Britain and some other bits.	Re: More guns... Bumping this thread with a couple more examples... Izhmash AN-94 'Abakan', 5.45x39mm (Russia, 1997-) The Avtomat Nikonova 94 (named for it's chief designer, Gennadiy Nikonov) is the final product of the Project Abakan advanced assault rifle trials conducted in the USSR in the 1980s, intended to create a replacement for the Kalashnikov series (p. HT114). It is generally more accurate than the AK-74, although also considerably more complex. The high cost and difficulty of maintaining the weapon means that it is generally only issued to elite units in the Russian armed forces, with the Kalashnikov remaining the general-issue service rifle. The most notable feature of the AN-94 is it's ability to fire 2-round high-cyclic controlled bursts (p. HT83). It uses the same magazines as the AK-74 and can mount many of the same accessories. It has an upper rail for optional telescopic sights and an under-barrel attachment point for mounting a grenade launcher. Unlike the AK-74, it mounts it's bayonet on the side of the barrel, allowing both a bayonet and a grenade launcher to be used at the same time. Code: GUNS (RIFLE) (DX-4 or most other Guns at -2) TL Weapon Damage Acc Range Wt. RoF Shots ST Bulk Rcl Cost LC Notes 8 AN-94, 5.45x39mm 4d+2 pi 5 440/3,000 9.7/1.2 6#/10 30+1(3) 9† -5* 2 $1,500/$28 2 [1] [1] Accessory Rails Kel-Tec RFB Carbine, 7.62x51mm (USA, 2008-) The RFB (Rifle, Forward-ejection, Bullpup) is, as it's name implies, a bullpup format, semi-automatic rifle with a ejection system which pushes spent casings forwards, much like the one on the FN F2000. It was designed to be totaly ambidextrous, with controls usable from either side. It is also well-balanced for holding one-handed (see Tactical Shooting p. 13 for details of the advantages of bullpup weapons for one-handed use). The RFB can accept 20-round FN FAL magazines ($31, 1.7 lbs.) or 30-round Bren Gun ones ($33, 2.6 lbs.). It does not have iron sights, but does have Picatinny accessory rails. Kel-Tec has announced plans to manufacture further variants of the RFB; a 'Sporter' with a 24" barrel (Damage 7d, Acc 5, Range 1,000/4,200, Wt 9.6/0.9, Bulk -5) and a Target Rifle (Damage 7d, Acc 6, Range 1,000/4,200, Wt 12.2/0.9, ST 10†, Bulk -6) with a heavy 32" barrel. Code: GUNS (RIFLE) (DX-4 or most other Guns at -2) TL Weapon Damage Acc Range Wt. RoF Shots ST Bulk Rcl Cost LC Notes 8 Kel-Tec RFB, 7.62x51mm 6d+2 pi 4 850/3,750 9/0.9 3 10+1(3) 9† -4 3 $1,800/$20 3 [1] [1] Accessory Rails

04-27-2011, 09:28 AM	#4
Opellulo Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Rome, Italy	Re: More guns... My Battlefield Bad Company 2 sense is tingling... __________________ “A strange game. The only winning move is not to play. How about a nice game of chess?”

04-27-2011, 12:05 PM	#5
Sam Baughn Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: United Kingdom of Great Britain and some other bits.	Re: More guns... Here's a shiny new shotgun which seems likely to crop up in a bunch of films in the near future... Kel-Tec KSG Shotgun, 12G 2.75" (USA, 2011-) The KSG is an unusual bullpup shotgun, with two internal tube magazines, each holding 7 shells (one Ready action to switch between magazines). It is a pump-action weapon, with the entire lower forend sliding backwards when pumped. Spent casings are ejected and fresh rounds inserted via a loading/ejection port located under the stock. The weapon has no standard iron sights, but a Picatinny rail suitable for mounting them is located above the barrel, while a second rail on the lower forend allows the use of vertical foregrips and/or other accessories. The KSG is not yet available for sale, but is expected to be released in mid-2011. Code: GUNS (SHOTGUN) (DX-4 or most other Guns at -2) TL Weapon Damage Acc Range Wt. RoF Shots ST Bulk Rcl Cost LC Notes 8 Kel-Tec KSG, 12G 2.75" 1d+1 pi 2 40/800 8.5/1.6 2x9 14+1(2i)10† -4 1/5 $1000 3 [1][2] [1] Accessory Rails [2] First Rcl figure is for shot, second for slugs. I'm wondering if I set the damage a little low for the Russian 9mm+P+ rounds; I think they could possibly justify 3d or even a little more. Last edited by Sam Baughn; 04-27-2011 at 12:09 PM.