01-12-2019, 02:28 PM | #1 |
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[Powers/Supers] Using Bind to hold something elevated
Thane has a ST 23 (KYOS) with a BL of 399. He’s holding a 3,500 lb car up, about 3 yards.
Candi has a ST 26 bind (KYOS, so a hypothetical BL of 796), with Area Affect (4 yd), Persistent, Selective Area and Wall (Rigid, any shape desired). Thane and Candi are team mates. Candi’s power effects are Force Fields. Can Candi hit the car Thane is holding with her bind, and keep it elevated, allowing Thane to release it and move away? |
01-12-2019, 02:32 PM | #2 |
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Re: [Powers/Supers] Using Bind to hold something elevated
I would rule that Binding has a "default surface" that it extends from, set when you get the power. For most Bindings, that's probably the ground, but if you wanted to set the ceiling instead, you could - in that case, the binding would hold things up off the ground, but you'd probably have to consider the strength of the ceiling as well as the Binding when asking how much it can hold. The ability to pick which surface the binding extends from on the fly is probably a +10% enhancement, while the attachment point actually being an invisible point in space, effectively unbreakable, would be a +25% enhancement.
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01-12-2019, 02:36 PM | #3 |
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Re: [Powers/Supers] Using Bind to hold something elevated
Since this Binding has Wall on it (though I'm not sure that combo is RAW-legal), I'd imagine that it could hold things up by "binding" them at the top of the wall formed.
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I can agree that an unbreakable, floating source point would probably be worth +25%. Or even +50% because bind is only 2 pts/level. I would judge that the support point would be the nearest, relevant, surface in range. If the material strength came into question, and there were two surfaces, one which could and one which could not support it, I would say that it would automatically go to the stronger surface. Quote:
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If I bind a flyer . . . do they immediately fall, or do they stay bound at altitude? |
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By default, I would rule that a Binding without a valid attachment point still goes off, grappling the target, but they then fall until they impact a surface, at which point they stick to that. Of course, a flying target with unmodified Flight wouldn't care about being grappled to stay in the air, so they could continue to move, they'd just be bound up while doing so. But someone with Flight with any of the modifiers that make it more like real flying would be in trouble. |
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01-12-2019, 03:39 PM | #8 | |
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And, since Binding is basically grappling, I'd apply the same ruling to it. I don't think that's unfair to people with Binding, especially since the penalties of grappling still make flying a lot more difficult. |
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