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Join Date: May 2016
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For this rule question I propose an example:
Batman is fighting Killer Croc by a cliffside. Croc is already hit with a tranquilizer, and is losing strength fast. Batman manages to hit Croc hard enough to stun him--Croc loses balance, and falls off the cliff, into a lake. Croc is now unconscious and underwater (and he cannot breath water), but his metahuman abilities include Breath-Holding 7. Does this provide a benefit versus drowning, or perhaps to resuscitation, since Croc's physiology stores oxygen better? What do you think? |
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Join Date: Jun 2013
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The Advantage doesn't state that taking a deep breath is necessary to use it, right? It's not Lung Capacity, after all. I'd give half benefit, rounded up.
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Forest Grove, Beaverton, Oregon
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No concentrate manuever to take a deep breath first halves holding ability in general.
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Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Canada
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Suffocation/drowning is unrelated to the bends and nitrogen narcosis - the bends is a mechanical problem (bubbles in your body where bubbles don't belong and gum up the works), and nitrogen narcosis is a metabolic hazard (it's a toxicity effect).
Doesn't Breath helping with either is weird and I'm not sure I like that.
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Kyïv, Ukraine
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Join Date: Sep 2011
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I’m not entirely satisfied with this though. It seems appropriate enough as an explanation for why Killer Croc is back in a later adventure rather than being dead but it offends against verisimilitude. Killer Croc is unconscious! He shouldn’t be able to hold his breath at all! In that case, he should have automatically failed his Swimming roll (as per B346-B347) and be inhaling at least some water, thereby losing 1 FP in the first second and another FP every five seconds thereafter until he recovers consciousness. Killer Croc needs rescuing(, probably by Batman). |
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Brighton
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Not doing some of the things we do to breath and oxygenate our blood and having different physiological assumptions from human norm would remove the danger of the bends and Narcosis of the deeps. EDIT: a point made in the write up of the Oxygen Storage version of this advantage on pg49 Last edited by Tomsdad; 06-27-2016 at 12:49 AM. |
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Last edited by vicky_molokh; 06-27-2016 at 07:54 AM. |
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Join Date: Sep 2007
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The original scenario still works if we ignore the reference to "stun" and assume that it's the tranquilizer dart that's causing Croc to go unconscious. Knockback without stunning, frex, would be sufficient to dump him into the lake. Or perhaps he just stumbles and falls over the cliff as the tranq kicks in; we don't even really need Bats to touch him to set up the question. |
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batman, breath-holding, killer croc, oxygen storage, unconscious |
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