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06-14-2019, 09:28 PM | #11 |
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Re: [Magic] Using ceremonial magic to create an unassailable magical fortress
This doesn't follow at all. It takes one mage-day per point of energy to do Slow and Sure enchantment. GURPS isn't D&D with hard limits on how many spells you can cast per day, so a wizard can potentially do a lot of spell-casting in that one day of work. This means spell-castings should be much more common than magic items.
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06-14-2019, 09:48 PM | #12 |
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Re: [Magic] Using ceremonial magic to create an unassailable magical fortress
The defenders could run a Raise Cone of Power spell theoretically forever.
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06-15-2019, 08:36 AM | #13 | ||
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06-15-2019, 09:12 AM | #14 | |
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So you might baffle a squad of grunts but you'd still need to protect your casters as if the Mist wasn't even there. For that well-prepared assassin it effectively won't be.
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06-15-2019, 05:42 PM | #15 |
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Re: [Magic] Using ceremonial magic to create an unassailable magical fortress
Is there any guideline as to how close you need to be to be a "spectator" and work against the ceremony?
If it's "line of sight" that would be pretty powerful (be camped out on a hill a mile away with a pair of binoculars, wish the ritual would fail) but would help explain why mages might tend to do ceremonial magic behind closed doors. I'd like it if there was incentive to get closer to do more sabotage though. M12 gives a (is this free? do you even spend energy?) -5 from each opposing spectator, and since unskilled supporting spectators only give 1 (presumably from their FP?) that means 1 opposed can cancel out 5 supporting... "Increased Range, LOS" is a +0% enhancement for abilities with a typical range of 2000+yards Sense rolls use the B550 Speed/Range table which is -18 at 2000 yards (1 mile) Rather than imparting -5 regardless of how far, what if instead it was -1 at 2000, -2 at 1600, -3 at 1200, -4 at 800, -5 at 400 or less? That way there is incentive to get closer to better disrupt the ritual. |
06-15-2019, 10:17 PM | #16 |
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Re: [Magic] Using ceremonial magic to create an unassailable magical fortress
A little later in the same paragraph it says, "A mage may work on only one enchantment at a time; he may not “work two shifts,” either on the same or different items," which I interpret as limiting it to 1 enchanting point per day.
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06-15-2019, 10:49 PM | #17 | ||
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Re: [Magic] Using ceremonial magic to create an unassailable magical fortress
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"If you know a spell at skill 15+ and have a group of willing assistants, you may opt to cast the spell by leading your assistants in an elaborate ritual that maximizes the spell's power." & "Energy cost does not change, but your assistants [emphasis mine] can supplement your energy input as follows: Each mage who knows the spell at level 15+… Each non-mage who knows the spell at level 15+… Each mage who knows the spell at level 14 or lower… Each unskilled spectator who supports the casting… Each spectator who opposes the casting… makes it clear that even spectators who oppose the casting must, at least initially, have been willing assistants of the caster for this particular ritual (i.e. having been a willing assistant three rituals ago cuts no ice for this ritual). The willing assistants part certainly implies that even if there isn't a formal request, the choice of who counts as part of the willing assistants initially lies with the principal caster, i.e., if he didn't count you as a willing assistant, you can't affect the ritual for good or ill. OTOH if he's setting the ritual up as a continuing circle that people can drop in and out of, you might get in as part of a generic "all the members of our circle." Quote:
In 3rd Edition, it was explicitly mentioned that rituals were often performed behind closed doors to exclude the possibility of opposed spectators. Presumably, this either excluded spectators entirely or limited it to those who were trusted not to oppose the ritual. It's not clear how one goes from willing assistant to opposed spectator but something like agreeing to a fertility ritual and finding out halfway into it that it's going to involve human sacrifice would probably do. Last edited by Curmudgeon; 06-16-2019 at 03:00 PM. |
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06-16-2019, 01:12 AM | #18 |
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Re: [Magic] Using ceremonial magic to create an unassailable magical fortress
I took the italicized "willing" to mean the assistants were willing to help, not that the caster had to be willing to accept them.
M21 could be some help in defining how to qualify as an "assistant" to then be classified as one of two spectator types:
I think enchantments can't benefit from spectators like other ceremonial magic, that's why they aren't mentioned, but I think maybe you need to be IN the circle to be a spectator? |
06-16-2019, 11:13 AM | #19 |
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06-16-2019, 01:50 PM | #20 |
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Re: [Magic] Using ceremonial magic to create an unassailable magical fortress
although if the "walking by" required "walk into the ritual circle" it'd be a lower risk. You'd still have the situation where the enemy steals one of your followers' cloaks and worms his way into the throng of dozens unnoticed, of course.
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