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Old 03-01-2024, 12:41 PM   #1511
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There is insufficient information in the quotations to make a sensible Oath/Bond/Deal.

We neither made, nor saw, any oaths made with Yi in character, only had you allude to them. So I think we need to know the exact content of any oaths we made or received.

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Old 03-04-2024, 09:24 AM   #1512
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Yi made the oaths without realizing they were going to be broken as well. The aim is suprize, not "Gotcha!"

The exact wording is this (I've tweaked Yi and Halcyone a tiny bit to put them in first person)

Yi:
"I swear by my prize that I will deal with you honorably"

Halcyone:
"If I break our agreement may my former master find me"

Vassarious:
"May any harm a betrayer of this pact inflicts be answered twofold in kind upon themselves"

If you have further questions you may roll Thaumatology! to get answers.



I hope this helps.
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Old 03-04-2024, 07:39 PM   #1513
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Occult! What are the contents of "this pact"?

3d6 <= 14
1 + 4 + 4 = 9 ... success
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Old 03-05-2024, 06:15 AM   #1514
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Halcyone:
"If I break our agreement may my former master find me"
Are these pacts strong enough to give worlds with no knowledge of interworld travel knowledge? Or cross worlds at all?
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Old 03-05-2024, 07:40 AM   #1515
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Occult! What are the contents of "this pact"?

3d6 <= 14
1 + 4 + 4 = 9 ... success
I'm not trying to be obtuse...

the "honorable" thing for Yi was meant to be the only oath when Vassarious says it, they wanted to avoid oaths (and just go for a drink, because it's all sticky-traps and screw this).

Then when you gave the "pact" quote in the OOC (as our not getting our prize, the same as Yi, was not acceptable), which I copied "by divine inspiration" I likewise, thought that would be the only oath that we all took together, once we had worked out the pact. And then we skipped all that, which I did not argue with at the time having presumed we worked out the details.

So at this point, I just want to know what we actually agreed to.
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Old 03-05-2024, 08:42 AM   #1516
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Occult! What are the contents of "this pact"?
  • Do each other no harm
  • Do not intentionally let each other come to harm
  • Work together to achieve your mutual objective

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Are these pacts strong enough to give worlds with no knowledge of interworld travel knowledge? Or cross worlds at all?
No. This magic doesn't cross worlds.


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I'm not trying to be obtuse...

the "honorable" thing for Yi was meant to be the only oath when Vassarious says it, they wanted to avoid oaths (and just go for a drink, because it's all sticky-traps and screw this).

Then when you gave the "pact" quote in the OOC (as our not getting our prize, the same as Yi, was not acceptable), which I copied "by divine inspiration" I likewise, thought that would be the only oath that we all took together, once we had worked out the pact. And then we skipped all that, which I did not argue with at the time having presumed we worked out the details.

So at this point, I just want to know what we actually agreed to.
Sorry, I thought V was just concerned about what V would be promising.
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Old 03-05-2024, 09:26 AM   #1517
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  • Do each other no harm
  • Do not intentionally let each other come to harm
  • Work together to achieve your mutual objective
So what happens when the pact appears to have a paradox?
We do not appear to have a mutual objective. Vassarious' objective is to fulfil the fate he was sent here for.

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Sorry, I thought V was just concerned about what V would be promising.
Vassarious was trying to get out of vowing entirely or keeping it as light and simple as possible and after getting shot down I just went with your suggestion to keep things moving.

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Okay, so we can't harm each other...

So let's see if we can find him and talk. If Vassarious adapts to detect supernatural, can they get a ping? Can I put long ranged on it?
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Old 03-06-2024, 09:55 AM   #1518
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So what happens when the pact appears to have a paradox?
Then that part of the pact is fulfilled and carries no further obligations... though the intent of the parties matters more than the truth.


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Okay, so we can't harm each other...

So let's see if we can find him and talk. If Vassarious adapts to detect supernatural, can they get a ping? Can I put long ranged on it?
Supernatural creatures, supernatural effects, and magical casters are all over the place around here.

Can you stick long ranged on it?.... yes.

Farther away from the Estate, Vassarius has a little more luck, and thinks he located Yi's general direction.


How will you approach him?
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Old 03-06-2024, 10:04 AM   #1519
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How will you approach him?
I say we overfly him to see what this Yi looks like, and if he has any distinguishing possessions.
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Old 03-06-2024, 10:07 AM   #1520
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I'm assuming the third point is dissolved and only the first two apply, as Vassarious was always highly skeptical in speech and action of Bel being the target, and this being a means to an end to bring them closer to their proper destiny.


Unless Halycone objects, I say we just fly up and say hi.
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