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04-22-2022, 07:43 AM | #32 | |
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Mixing the issues of (a) how GURPS works internally with (b) whether GURPS rules are realistic is usually an unfruitful effort. |
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04-22-2022, 07:54 AM | #33 | |
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04-22-2022, 08:23 AM | #34 | |
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Doing so for the visible purpose of trying to justify Mary Sue NPCs is doubly foolish, and very reminiscent of a previous poster who did much the same and was eventually banned because they weren't interested in discussion, but were simply trying to validate their ideas. Are you Alonsua?
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04-22-2022, 08:34 AM | #35 | |
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I am saying (I thought quite clearly) that GURPS rules do not attempt or purport to represent "intelligence" in the RW and that accordingly it is meaningless to discuss whether players understand any given RW concept of "intelligence". |
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04-22-2022, 08:39 AM | #36 | |
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If you're talking about the other question, also I'm not sure if the assigned scores in Spec Ops are totally realistic, because there is another book about martial arts that gives commandos scores of 11 to 12 in attributes, and another on Navy SEALs that gives them a maximum of 13 in IQ and DX. And precisely what I am trying to emphasize in this question is that the players are not aware that even an IQ of 12, or 13, can represent a very gifted character. |
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04-22-2022, 08:46 AM | #37 |
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04-22-2022, 08:48 AM | #38 | ||
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As for the contradiction in the quotes, the first said that IQ 126 gave a 4-5x boost to learning speed, while the second said IQ 140 gave only a 3x boost. Do you not see the issue there? You're going from normal speed at IQ 10, to ~4.5x speed at IQ 12, to 3x speed at IQ 13, to 6x speed at IQ 14. That's a roller coaster, not a clear progression.
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04-22-2022, 08:50 AM | #39 |
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Re: Are DX and IQ overly undervalued?
Watching, mostly, but I had the same thought.
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04-22-2022, 08:59 AM | #40 |
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Re: Are DX and IQ overly undervalued?
For what it's worth - I believe one main reason for the "skill to advantage" change between 3rd and 4th, is to try to fix the issue where a person with IQ 15 and a point in a language (giving Skill-15), has the same relative skill level as a native of IQ 10 who has several points in the same language (to get to skill-15).
On the other hand, this whole thing reminds me of the Monty Python "Argument Sketch"... |
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