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Old 12-05-2022, 09:06 PM   #1
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Default Weapon stat MILLWALL BRICK

Good evening gentlemen.

I am playing a "jackie chan" type of character who is a combat pragmatist. So, cheap shots, dirty tricks, the works.

So, researching to build the character i came across this hooligan weapon, the infamous millwall brick:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/gatdail...-weapon/%3famp

in the moat basic i guess it's like the magazine mention3d in MA. but i am interested in the newspaper + rock combination.

how would you stat that? small mace? knobbed club?
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Old 12-06-2022, 12:05 AM   #2
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The basic version is a fist load at best. An advanced version with a rock might be Swing +0 with a good chance to break on every hit.

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Also "Millwall Brick" sounds like a good name for a British supe, circa 1980s.
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Old 12-06-2022, 04:12 PM   #3
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The basic version is a fist load at best. An advanced version with a rock might be Swing +0 with a good chance to break on every hit.

EDIT

Also "Millwall Brick" sounds like a good name for a British supe, circa 1980s.
I could see that. Also, 'Millwall and the Bricks' could be a British garbage band in the same era (or a garage band if they're a little better).
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Old 12-06-2022, 04:38 PM   #4
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The basic version is a fist load at best. An advanced version with a rock might be Swing +0 with a good chance to break on every hit.

EDIT

Also "Millwall Brick" sounds like a good name for a British supe, circa 1980s.
Hell yeah lol!
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Old 12-06-2022, 04:53 PM   #5
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As another option, treat a rolled up & flattened newspapers wrapped over the knuckles as Cheap-Quality Leather Gloves. They provide DR 1 to the user's fist, but only to avoid damage due to Hurting Yourself with punches.

The logic here is that a rolled up newspaper doesn't add that much mass to the user's fist, nor does it concentrate the force of the user's blow like Brass Knuckles or a heavier Fist Load would.

Newspapers used as wrappers for heavier, more rigid materials turn into Improvised, Cheap-Quality Pommels (thr-1), Hammers (sw+0) or Batons (sw-1), depending on balance, mass, length and grip. They'd all Parry at -1, like a Small Knife, due to short length. Anything Hammer-like might be Unbalanced and become Unready following an attack or parry.
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Old 12-06-2022, 08:33 PM   #6
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As another option, treat a rolled up & flattened newspapers wrapped over the knuckles as Cheap-Quality Leather Gloves. They provide DR 1 to the user's fist, but only to avoid damage due to Hurting Yourself with punches.

The logic here is that a rolled up newspaper doesn't add that much mass to the user's fist, nor does it concentrate the force of the user's blow like Brass Knuckles or a heavier Fist Load would.

Newspapers used as wrappers for heavier, more rigid materials turn into Improvised, Cheap-Quality Pommels (thr-1), Hammers (sw+0) or Batons (sw-1), depending on balance, mass, length and grip. They'd all Parry at -1, like a Small Knife, due to short length. Anything Hammer-like might be Unbalanced and become Unready following an attack or parry.
Nice. thanks
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Old 12-07-2022, 08:40 AM   #7
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I could see that. Also, 'Millwall and the Bricks' could be a British garbage band in the same era (or a garage band if they're a little better).
Some decades earlier it might be a tough police detective with one of those distinctive British given names. Or he might be James Millwall Brick, but go by his middle name.
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Old 12-07-2022, 12:14 PM   #8
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in the moat basic i guess it's like the magazine mention3d in MA. but i am interested in the newspaper + rock combination.

how would you stat that? small mace? knobbed club?
Probably +1 sw cr damage and no thrust damage relative to the rolled-magazine baton in GURPS Martial Arts. Its shorter, lighter, and especially softer than the small mace or knobbed club (the paper would pad the impact).

The rolled-magazine baton was taught to SOE in WW II, so its not new.
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Old 12-08-2022, 07:04 AM   #9
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Some decades earlier it might be a tough police detective with one of those distinctive British given names. Or he might be James Millwall Brick, but go by his middle name.
George Lazenby as Detective Inspector James Millwall Brick on "Brick of the Mill" airing on BBC Four.
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