08-13-2009, 07:43 PM | #1 |
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[Thaumatology] A purposive exploration
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os = bone weros = truth Hello, I just got High-tech and Thaumatology. I've decided to read High-tech straight thru, but I thought I'd take a different approach to Thaumatology. I'm interested in: -language -Odin/runes -consciousness -Carlos Castaneda's concept of 'sorceror' -the iterative role of consciousness/reality in mutual self-construction -the notion that language mediates the above -the notion that the more chthonic the language, the more it may do the above, yea unto to the extent of sustaining/generating 'magic' effects -using proto-indo-european (PIE) as an example of such cthonic language for game purposes. In this regard, I'd like to consult the 'hivemind' -- how should I approach reading Thaumatology to take a direct route to building the above as the magical paradigm for a campaign? |
08-13-2009, 08:07 PM | #2 | |
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Then you should read Thaumatology cover-to-cover again. Anything else will not be the shortest path to what you really want. I could identify multiple items out of what you listed from a single textbox but they would be selling the book very short. High Tech is very good (and I consider it a great honor to be listed among its' playtesters) but that's the book you could hopscotch through if you didn't have the time to go cover-to-cover. However, Thaumatology (which I also consider a great honor to be listed in) is _dense_ with all things mystical. It;'s going to take you a long time to digest it. I've been going back to it frequently ever since it was published (after doing the cover-to-cover thing) and I think I'm just now getting ready to grapple with everything possible with its' system of Realm Magic (after possibly digesting standard Magic, variants thereof and Path/Booik Magic).
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08-13-2009, 11:21 PM | #3 |
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Re: [Thaumatology] A purposive exploration
read the symbols, realm and syntactic sections, dig for references to spirits, look at the rest. it takes a lot to absorb some sections and others are easily overlooked such that you find new interpertations and ideas on rereading them.
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08-14-2009, 12:39 AM | #4 |
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Re: [Thaumatology] A purposive exploration
I'll just say that I love the idea of
Magery 0 (no spell prerequisites, +20%) [6] Magery 4 (no spell prerequisites, +20%) [48] Those nine points could have gone into spells, but are instead used to ignore the whole prerequisite chain notion that they seem to be so worked up over. I would totally do this even for a 100-point mage. And, because it's useful, internally consistent, and cost-effective, most GMs are going to veto it outright.
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08-14-2009, 01:15 AM | #5 | |
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However, the only reference to "no spell prerequisites" I can find is on Thaumatology pg. 67, in reference to Power Investiture -- specifically as a way to elegantly "create" Power Investiture out of Magery -- and it costs +30%. Is there somewhere else I should be looking?
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08-14-2009, 02:07 AM | #6 |
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I must have had the modifier memorized wrong (I don't have the book with me).
Eidetic Memory, failure by 1. It's still worth doing, though Magery 0 [7] and Magery 4 [52] is more than half my usual starting budget(my GM is still used to 3e).
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08-14-2009, 02:33 AM | #7 | |
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But anyway, I explained all this in the same book where I offered the optional enhancement to Magery to get round them.
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08-14-2009, 05:34 AM | #8 | ||
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08-14-2009, 06:17 AM | #9 | |
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Not so much. There's lots about how you can tweak it and different approaches to magery and that to which it grants access, but no fluffy explination. I won't get into mechanics as I'm sure you know far more about GURPS than do I.
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08-14-2009, 07:11 AM | #10 | |
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Incidentally, I know what "cthonic" means and I strongly suspect both Ken Hite and Phil Masters do too but that word is not used that I can recall. No Castenada that I can recall either and that's probably an example of parts of your list that are too individual/idiosyncratic to expect coverage of. There probably is some talk of conciousness and consensual reality in parts of the book but I consider that no more than arcanobabble and it doesn't tend to stick with me.
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