07-16-2013, 03:00 PM | #1 |
Join Date: May 2013
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Orc Resisting a Curse
The wording is somewhat ambiguous...which of the following is it?
1. The Orc can resist a curse and loses a level, unless he is level 1, in which case he can resist the curse but loses no level. 2. The Orc can resist a curse and loses a level, unless he is level 1, in which case he cannot resist the curse. |
07-16-2013, 03:14 PM | #2 |
Join Date: Apr 2011
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Re: Orc Resisting a Curse
If the Orc is 1st level, he cannot pay the level to do the resist, therefore, he cannot resist it.
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07-16-2013, 09:38 PM | #3 |
Join Date: May 2013
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Re: Orc Resisting a Curse
So I'm wondering why it's this way for Orc, and not for Thief? Seems silly to me.
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07-16-2013, 10:13 PM | #4 |
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Baltimore, MD
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Re: Orc Resisting a Curse
For the org, it's an activation cost. For the thief, it's a penalty for a bad roll, just like suffering bad stuff. And just like bad stuff and curses, if they can't affect you, nothing happens
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07-17-2013, 10:37 AM | #5 |
Join Date: Apr 2011
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Re: Orc Resisting a Curse
For the thief, the Cost of stealing is the card they discard first. They have to pay the cost of discarding a card before trying to steal. The level-loss for being unsuccessful is a resulting penalty, not a cost.
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07-17-2013, 10:40 AM | #6 |
Join Date: May 2013
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Re: Orc Resisting a Curse
Yes, I understand that...but what I meant by my question is why it's permitted for Thieves to steal at level 1 at all. Let's phrase it that way instead.
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07-17-2013, 10:42 AM | #7 |
Join Date: Apr 2011
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Re: Orc Resisting a Curse
Thieves can steal as long as they have cards to discard.
Orcs can ignore curses as long as they have levels to lose. |
07-17-2013, 12:17 PM | #8 |
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Re: Orc Resisting a Curse
Because that's the way Steve wants it and has said he wants it every time the question comes up.
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07-19-2013, 08:13 PM | #9 |
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Re: Orc Resisting a Curse
Yes I understand that, but that's not what I'm asking. I'm asking for an explanation that's better than just "because," because that's not a real answer and doesn't illustrate game dynamics at all.
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07-19-2013, 08:33 PM | #10 |
Join Date: Apr 2011
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Re: Orc Resisting a Curse
As we explained, the level loss for failing to steal is not a payment, it is a penalty. The rules already explain that any penalty to lose a level cannot take you below level-1
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