Main-gauche DX adjustment

Allensh · 04-06-2019, 06:47 AM

I have a question. In the Weapons Table under Main-Gauche there is a 1 in the DX adjustment column. Is this a typo? If not what does it mean?

Allen

hcobb · 04-06-2019, 07:55 AM

As no sample character with a Main-gauche has any sort of DX adjustment noted, that "1" is a typo. There is no DX adjustment.

larsdangly · 04-06-2019, 08:41 AM

I think we are intended to take that as a typo, but it is worth noting that the main-gauche has a big range of treatments when you look across the old and new rules. In the original melee it had a -2 DX adjustment when used as a shield! In the original Advanced Melee, the table lists a -2 DX adjustment but the text says its -1 when used as a shield. As far as I can tell, no DX adjustment is mentioned in the new Melee, and it isn't mentioned in the text of the new ITL, but does appear as an adjustment (apparently +1!) in the ITL weapon table. It's all a bit confusing and should definitely be subject to an official errata

Skarg · 04-06-2019, 12:31 PM

I think there's a post by SJ somewhere on the forum here which may give more clues as to what he had in mind in the new edition, but yeah since ITL contradicts itself and seems to have the table entry backwards, it's hard to know what the final idea is.

larsdangly · 04-06-2019, 08:06 PM

I did what I think was an exhaustive search through the new Melee and ITL and can't find any text or any tables in Melee that support the idea of a DX penalty for normal use of the Main Gauche. On that basis, I think the '+1' adjustment in the ITL tables should be ignored.

larsdangly · 04-06-2019, 08:10 PM

A related question for the group: the rules for left handed weapons make it sound like making two attacks with a normal weapon and a main-gauche is resolved with no DX adjustment for the main weapon and -4 for the main-gauche. But Net and Trident compares itself to sword and main-gauche, and there states not to forget about the -4 penalty, with a wording that seems like it refers to both attacks. Thoughts?

04-06-2019, 06:47 AM	#1
Allensh Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Mt. Pleasant, Michigan	Main-gauche DX adjustment I have a question. In the Weapons Table under Main-Gauche there is a 1 in the DX adjustment column. Is this a typo? If not what does it mean? Allen

04-06-2019, 07:55 AM	#2
hcobb Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Pacheco, California	Re: Main-gauche DX adjustment As no sample character with a Main-gauche has any sort of DX adjustment noted, that "1" is a typo. There is no DX adjustment. __________________ -HJC

04-06-2019, 08:41 AM	#3
larsdangly Join Date: Dec 2017	Re: Main-gauche DX adjustment I think we are intended to take that as a typo, but it is worth noting that the main-gauche has a big range of treatments when you look across the old and new rules. In the original melee it had a -2 DX adjustment when used as a shield! In the original Advanced Melee, the table lists a -2 DX adjustment but the text says its -1 when used as a shield. As far as I can tell, no DX adjustment is mentioned in the new Melee, and it isn't mentioned in the text of the new ITL, but does appear as an adjustment (apparently +1!) in the ITL weapon table. It's all a bit confusing and should definitely be subject to an official errata

04-06-2019, 12:31 PM	#4
Skarg Join Date: May 2015	Re: Main-gauche DX adjustment I think there's a post by SJ somewhere on the forum here which may give more clues as to what he had in mind in the new edition, but yeah since ITL contradicts itself and seems to have the table entry backwards, it's hard to know what the final idea is.

04-06-2019, 08:06 PM	#5
larsdangly Join Date: Dec 2017	Re: Main-gauche DX adjustment I did what I think was an exhaustive search through the new Melee and ITL and can't find any text or any tables in Melee that support the idea of a DX penalty for normal use of the Main Gauche. On that basis, I think the '+1' adjustment in the ITL tables should be ignored.

04-06-2019, 08:10 PM	#6
larsdangly Join Date: Dec 2017	Re: Main-gauche DX adjustment A related question for the group: the rules for left handed weapons make it sound like making two attacks with a normal weapon and a main-gauche is resolved with no DX adjustment for the main weapon and -4 for the main-gauche. But Net and Trident compares itself to sword and main-gauche, and there states not to forget about the -4 penalty, with a wording that seems like it refers to both attacks. Thoughts?