Re: The Whip is just wrong (House Rules)

[phiwum]

Originally Posted by Axly Suregrip

BTW, I will be starting new threads individually on Lassos, Bolas and Nets. This thread is about Whips.

Keeping them separate is needed to sort them out as they do function differently in real life.

Sorry for the digression.

[Axly Suregrip]

Originally Posted by phiwum

Sorry for the digression.

not a problem. it is normal on these boards :-)

[Skarg]

Originally Posted by Axly Suregrip

As far as the whip causing a knock down requiring a saving roll from the target, I just don't see that as consistent with most of TFT.

Well it's how Shield Rush and Unarmed Combat Throws work. Shield Rush is as original as basic Melee.

The strong shield rush has to both hit me and be as strong or stronger than I am, to make me get a second 3/DX roll to avoid falling. If I'm stronger, I get a 2/DX roll.

And frankly, I expect a strong man with a shield is more likely going to knock me over with a shield rush, than I am that a weaker foe whipping me around my torso is going to get me to fall down.

[Chris Rice]

Originally Posted by Skarg

Well it's how Shield Rush and Unarmed Combat Throws work. Shield Rush is as original as basic Melee.

The strong shield rush has to both hit me and be as strong or stronger than I am, to make me get a second 3/DX roll to avoid falling. If I'm stronger, I get a 2/DX roll.

And frankly, I expect a strong man with a shield is more likely going to knock me over with a shield rush, than I am that a weaker foe whipping me around my torso is going to get me to fall down.

I would imagine the whip entangling the legs to cause the fall.

[Shostak]

Originally Posted by Skarg

The strong shield rush has to both hit me and be as strong or stronger than I am, to make me get a second 3/DX roll to avoid falling. If I'm stronger, I get a 2/DX roll.

This seems perfectly reasonable for the whip and lasso. I'd even consider letting someone entangled used a free hand to try to yank the whip/rope from their assailant's hand, knocking them down on a crit roll.