Monster Hunters: Justice (OCC) - Page 14

Ransom · 01-21-2015, 06:39 AM

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Could everyone tell me where they think their character is in the approval process? I think its pretty much in the final stages for everyone but Skullcrusher (I'm waiting for another sheet), and Talosian (who is moving quickly), and matrix WAS in the final process before he messed with the template.

Brother Man is sanctified, justified, and ready for every good work!

Skullcrusher · 01-21-2015, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ericthered

Could everyone tell me where they think their character is in the approval process? I think its pretty much in the final stages for everyone but Skullcrusher (I'm waiting for another sheet), and Talosian (who is moving quickly), and matrix WAS in the final process before he messed with the template.

Sorry I thought you saw when I said was going to repost it in the same thread I posted the last one. Here he is again

https://www.dropbox.com/s/asf4nudwhv...ter-1.pdf?dl=0

Lamech · 01-21-2015, 08:55 AM

Let's see I should type up my common ritual ideas since I'll need to do it anyway, I should specify my shtick and I should spend a lot more of the characters cash so I don't end up trying to fight monsters by throwing gil at them. So play ready, but I'll kick myself later if I don't get typing now?

Shtick is just gonna me able to wear a long coat without it getting caught or overly damaged despite the fact that it would normally be an issue. That cool? How about a generalized "clothing/hair doesn't get caught or tangled?" Weight, DR, DB etc. apply of course.

ericthered · 01-21-2015, 03:50 PM

-53 (disadvantages) + 152 (advantages) = 99

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Destiny (Brown Frees Himself) [-10]*
Trickster (CR 12) [-15]
Revulsion (Iron) [-10]
Frightens animals (only when using powers-20%) [-8]
Vulnerability (Iron, *1.5) [-10]

Illusion (Independence +40%, Area 4 yards +100%, Pact -15%, Magic -10%, fae weaknesses*** -10%, Persistent +40%, anchors to objects +0%) [63] ****
Invisibility (Pact -15%, magic -10%, fae weaknesses-10%, can carry objects (light encum)+20%, Affects machines +50%,switchable+10%)[60] ****
Elastic Skin (Pact -15%, magic -10%, fae weaknesses -10%)(alternate to invisibility)[14/5=3] ****
Night Vision 5(Pact -15%, magic -10%, fae weaknesses -10%) [4]

Contact Group (King of Brown, Fae knowledge, skill 18, appears on 9, unreliable) [10]**
Status 1 (host of King of Brown) [5]

* This curse is probably curable, and brown may eventually figure out a way around it. Jack will probably loose power at this point and will probably gain a powerful fae as an enemy.
** the King is always available, but is not always playing things seriously -- if the 9 is rolled he's decided to have fun with Jack instead of being helpful. The King will always give somewhat true information if he can -- but on a failure it will be missing some key information designed to result in a "funny" result (he may add in an extra condition, or 'forget' to mention an key item of protocol. Or a valid gate route will be given, but it passes through the lady's room at a mall. Or perhaps brown will include a detail of a fae's weakness that harken's back to a particuarly embarrassing past experience for the fae). Bribes come in the form of behavior, or if the information is critical to jack's survival. This is given as a contact group because of the large range of skills he can give access to.
*** fae weaknesses: the magic of the king of brown has a number of counters. It is stopped by iron in general and by symbols of luck. Symbols of luck usually attatch themselves to thresholds (however weak). Iron clears the area around it of the illusion, depending on quantity: a nail will just make a three inch hole, while a car will completely clear out its inside and 2 yards around it. If he is in contact with iron, all illusions end.
**** As a feature each of these advantages works completely independently on supernaturals and mortals. He can be invisible to mortals while looking like something else to supernaturals, make illusions only one of them can see, and so forth. However, he must activate each effect separately.

I'm thinking that the particular emotion this fae delights in is embarrassment (general trickery is a little broad).

Low Status is meaningless for someone who can both change his appearance on a whim and has extensive skill at acting.

The characters will not be formal members of a monster hunting team (though you may belong to an organization which does so -- we have at least two characters doing this). They need a motivation to go hunting. They will be acquaintances with each other, though not good friends (at least not at first).

There are no "Grand" organizations. In addition to Cherion and Luminus Vilgaeas, we also have "The Insiders". All have been player proposed. The main rules are that the government is not in on things (though individuals may be) and nothing is an overarching grand superpower in the supernatural. Feel free to introduce one of your own.

Gates can indeed get you in and out of faerie. You pick an area of faerie to have gate knowledge for, and you can get to it from any place you have hidden lore gates for. Brown does not have his own kingdom -- why would trickster faeries hang out together? That's no fun at all. Places he might now well:

The Elven Courts: elven lords (and they are all lords) get fulfilment from bossing other fae around. No place for jokes like a sanctimonious court.
The Market: Fae gather to barter for deals with each other. This place is about services rather than goods, for the most part. Yet another great place for pranks -- tempers are on the edge, fae are out on limbs, and so forth.
The Corners: The parts of faerie closest to mortal cities. This area is mostly used as a place to hide or lurk during the day. While the other two have their own enforcement of sorts, the corners is a wild no-man's land.

You can of course get from one part of faerie to another. Take Hidden Lore ( Area of Faerie) rather than area knowledge. It will cover the proper gates as well as how to get around, how to behave, and so forth.

Skullcrusher, It appears I looked at your sheet and thought it wasn't changed because the ST boost still costs 9 points instead of the 6 that it should. I'm looking at your gear and deciding whether say good or call 'tech fest!'. I think I'm going to call it good. Yes, you used action heavily rather than MH (and wow, on second look it seems a lot of the stuff is the same but your program prefers actions), but it all in one place and easy to navigate (and not weighed down with options). Don't worry about rations, thats part of COL (which we are glossing over. It looks good other than you having three spare points.

Also, see the 'dual nature post below'.

Ransom: Ready to go.

Lamech: I know the feeling!

Refplace: Those would be gadget linked powers, not bonuses to magery. Sorry. I'm not terribly fond of gadgets and magery interacting. Increasing basic damage is bestows a bonus, and its a +2 /+1 per dice deal, and a narrow category (there is a Kromm post on that that came up for initiates war on that). I would not recommend niche protection.

Matrix, I'm sorry if I came across a little harsh, I have verified through several external sources I was grumpy in general yesterday. I think in most cases you mentioned the stuff to me and I didn't really get back to you.

Please use danger sense rather than precognition.

I think I'm going to rule against having effects insubstantial on ST. Let me describe why: most insubstantial foes will have proper weaknesses, often only insubstantial vs mortals. The ones who don't have such weaknesses aren't intended to be rendered substantial, and I'd probably just end up slapping cosmic on them. I suggest looking at dual nature (see below) to handle insubstantial enemies that are intended to be physically handled.

a 300% enhancement to remove any supernatural or chi power sounds good, fair and proper to me. Place the old restrictions on it.

Yes, I was referring to having alternative enhancements on an alternative ability. Its not kosher, for mathematical reasons. Cap reliable at +4, halve the cost, and specify analysis only. If you want to add the other qualities, you can do so, but either the sense shouldn't be an alternate or you should pay full cost for them.

Fill up the remaining points by increasing existing stuff or just falling short, and we should be good.

OPTION:
A great deal of supernatural abilities, particularly mind control, insubstantial, and invisibility, are dependent on whether a person is supernatural or mortal. Cursed ones, are by default, mortal. Dual nature is a feature that allows you to count as both supernatural or mortal in most situations. It's a feature: you can touch almost all insubstantial beings, see beings that are invisible to one or the other, and so forth. Both path of body and the appropriate supernatural type effect you. You can be effected by attacks that effect either kind of being, and are effected by true faith and thresholds. This is available to either of our cursed characters.

A variation on that is conscious dual nature: that is: Unusual Background (I can choose if I'm supernatural or mortal depending on the situation)[10]. Such characters can hold back their supernatural nature, or expose it, to individual effects. You ignore thresholds and attacks that only work against one side of your nature, and can interact with effects as either mortal or supernatural. Mages working against you need to be careful about which paths they choose to target what part of you, but Mages working with you can target either part of your nature. . Once again, this is available to either of our cursed characters.

ericthered · 01-21-2015, 03:50 PM

We're going to start pretty quickly. There will be a few of different seeds starting off the story. Some are connected, while others are not.

Feel very very free to bring in other PC's when it feels appropriate, or to suggest ways that you could run into each other. If it helps, consider all of you to have serendipity only for the purpose of involving each other in the story.

Talosian · 01-21-2015, 05:30 PM

Eric

Crunch response:

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Destiny (Brown Frees Himself) [-10]*
* This curse is probably curable, and brown may eventually figure out a way around it. Jack will probably loose power at this point and will probably gain a powerful fae as an enemy.

Love the Destiny, and it fits perfectly. I just want to confirm that Jack would eventually be able to reallocate the points from the lost abilities and gained disadvantages (to clarify, I'd actually been thinking about this exact scenario, and I think it'd be really cool to play Jack after he's lost much of his power and is struggling to keep up, but I would expect him to be able to catch up eventually).

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Trickster (CR 12) [-15]
Revulsion (Iron) [-10]
Frightens animals (only when using powers-20%) [-8]
Vulnerability (Iron, *1.5) [-10]

Awesome, awesome, and awesome.

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Illusion (Independence +40%, Area 4 yards +100%, Pact -15%, Magic -10%, fae weaknesses*** -10%, Persistent +40%, anchors to objects +0%) [63] ****

I have a few questions on this one. I've never seen Anchors to Objects before, but I assume this means that if he put an illusion on top of a moving surface (like a carriage), it would stay with the carriage rather than staying in exact place?

Also, I'm wary of Persistent, because it actually seems like more of a disadvantage on Illusion with Independence. If he can already maintain things while otherwise engaged, having Illusions last for ten seconds after dropping them is actually problematic, as it makes it much more difficult to precisely control who sees what (a vital element of convincing people that they're crazy).

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Invisibility (Pact -15%, magic -10%, fae weaknesses-10%, can carry objects (light encum)+20%, Affects machines +50%,switchable+10%)[60] ****

Elastic Skin (Pact -15%, magic -10%, fae weaknesses -10%)(alternate to invisibility)[14/5=3] ****
Awesome. Good point with the alternate on Invisibility. Iron proximity should make Invisibility much more strategic. I'm surprised you dropped Glamour on these, but that's probably beneficial for me.

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Night Vision 5(Pact -15%, magic -10%, fae weaknesses -10%) [4]

Shiny. I can scare dogs away with my Night Vision XD. Would it be problematic if I added a -5% Nuisance Effect to get a noticeable eye glow on this? It drops the point cost by one, but it's mostly for the cool factor.

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Contact Group (King of Brown, Fae knowledge, skill 18, appears on 9, unreliable) [10]**
** the King is always available, but is not always playing things seriously -- if the 9 is rolled he's decided to have fun with Jack instead of being helpful. The King will always give somewhat true information if he can -- but on a failure it will be missing some key information designed to result in a "funny" result (he may add in an extra condition, or 'forget' to mention an key item of protocol. Or a valid gate route will be given, but it passes through the lady's room at a mall. Or perhaps brown will include a detail of a fae's weakness that harken's back to a particuarly embarrassing past experience for the fae). Bribes come in the form of behavior, or if the information is critical to jack's survival. This is given as a contact group because of the large range of skills he can give access to.

Absolutely love this. Not 100% sure of how the Crunch interacts with your description. RAW, Jack should only get any information on a 9 or less, but the description described the Frequency of Appearance as more of a reliability roll. This should be good regardless of the exact details, but I'd appreciate confirmation/clarification.

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Status 1 (host of King of Brown) [5]

As I'd written it, I'd assumed the King of Brown was "usurped" in short order, and that nobody would really care about that he continued calling himself King (since he couldn't actually /do/ anything). If you'd prefer him to actually be more inherently important, this works fine, and justifies Jack actually getting a boost with fae. If the idea was mainly to give him an "in" with fae, Spirit Empathy (Specialized (Fae), -50%) [5] might be a better option (and would actually make rather a lot of sense).

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*** fae weaknesses: the magic of the king of brown has a number of counters. It is stopped by iron in general and by symbols of luck. Symbols of luck usually attatch themselves to thresholds (however weak). Iron clears the area around it of the illusion, depending on quantity: a nail will just make a three inch hole, while a car will completely clear out its inside and 2 yards around it. If he is in contact with iron, all illusions end.

I like it. What can I expect to count as iron and not steel? Cars definitely seems fair, but I'm assuming that most electronic gadgets (and modern weapons) and such can be assumed to not have straight up iron.

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**** As a feature each of these advantages works completely independently on supernaturals and mortals. He can be invisible to mortals while looking like something else to supernaturals, make illusions only one of them can see, and so forth. However, he must activate each effect separately.

Huuuuh. That's neat, and has a lot of potential for pranking people... Extra useful for Elastic Face, since he could be anonymous to mortals, but identifiable to supernatural PCs. Should make Illusion extremely interesting.

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I'm thinking that the particular emotion this fae delights in is embarrassment (general trickery is a little broad).

Hmm. Would it be viable for a fae to have multiple emotional "poles" that attract them? If not, I can play this as Brown appreciating and enjoying all kinds of tricks designed to frustrate and otherwise harass, but being especially drawn to more sweepingly dramatic pranks of shame and embarrassment (in which case, he'd definitely be familiar with the Elven Courts).

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Low Status is meaningless for someone who can both change his appearance on a whim and has extensive skill at acting.

<facepalm> This is an excellent point that I completely missed. Consider it dead and buried. I'll kill Social Stigma (Minor), since he could usually ignore it as well.

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The characters will not be formal members of a monster hunting team (though you may belong to an organization which does so -- we have at least two characters doing this). They need a motivation to go hunting. They will be acquaintances with each other, though not good friends (at least not at first).

Hmm. I'll probably amend Jack's Duty to something else. His motivation and his reason for monster hunting may be somewhat different (he'll be motivated by Thrill-Seeking, but chooses to specifically hunt monsters because of personal losses, which probably won't be represented by a trait). Regardless, he'll stay on point with the monster hunting.

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Gates can indeed get you in and out of faerie. You pick an area of faerie to have gate knowledge for, and you can get to it from any place you have hidden lore gates for. Brown does not have his own kingdom -- why would trickster faeries hang out together? That's no fun at all.

Excellent. The idea behind the Kingdom of Brown was that it was just a corner of faerie where brownies and trickster fae could retreat to without angry high fae trying to murder them. In terms of the areas of faerie you mentioned, it'd mean a little chunk of The Corners that brownies used as a "safe" zone. Really isn't important, though.

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The Elven Courts: elven lords (and they are all lords) get fulfilment from bossing other fae around. No place for jokes like a sanctimonious court.
The Market: Fae gather to barter for deals with each other. This place is about services rather than goods, for the most part. Yet another great place for pranks -- tempers are on the edge, fae are out on limbs, and so forth.
The Corners: The parts of faerie closest to mortal cities. This area is mostly used as a place to hide or lurk during the day. While the other two have their own enforcement of sorts, the corners is a wild no-man's land.

Hmm. Okay, there's a couple of possibilities here. My initial inclination is to give Jack Hidden Lore (The Corners) from brief incursions, and make him depend on Brown as a Contact for anything else. Alternatively, I could say that Jack has been through much more of the fae to cause trouble, and give him some broader knowledge (and possibly a negative reputation, since he'd stand out). If either of these is preferable or problematic, let me know. EDIT: My current build is going with the latter, and replacing some of the scrapped disadvantages with a Elven Lord enemy (the idea being that he publicly humiliated him, but was seen/connected to what happened).

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Once again, this is available to either of our cursed characters.

I'm only marginally familiar with most of the character sheets, but the only one that I'm sure counts as cursed is Marcus Savage. Is Jack the other cursee, or did I miss somebody's sheet?

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Post is too long, so I split it into two parts.

Talosian · 01-21-2015, 05:30 PM

Part Two!

Everybody Else
In terms of character relationships:

Refplace: Jack might have encountered Mr. H, but probably nothing more than that. It's possible that Jack might have done something to **** him off in the past, but that's up to you.

Matrix: Jack could definitely have encountered Marcus in the past. Maybe they were hunting the same monster. Regardless, I figure Marcus could be one of Jack's contacts for giving the Vigilae a tip.

Michael Thayne: In all likelihood, any relationship between Jack and Hugh would have involved Hugh hunting Jack for his sprees of gleeful chaos. Lots of fun potential here.

Ransom: Brother Man's Intolerance (Supernatural) guarantees a rocky relationship between him and Jack. I assume that Man would see Jack as either an accomplice or a victim, and either one is guaranteed drama.

Lamech: Jack and Lara could get along quite well, since she has Xenophilia, and he's definitely unusual. Exactly what this would look like is up to you, since it depends on how her fascination with the "other" plays out.

Skullcrusher: Interactions between Jack and Randal depend on how The Insiders feel about the supernatural/Jack, and whether or not Randal would associate Jack with the fae that killed his family. Either way, they're similarly chaotic, though Jack might be somewhat horrified by how aggressively violent Randal is (Brown would only be mildly offended by the pedestrian nature of direct violence).

Skullcrusher · 01-21-2015, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ericthered

Skullcrusher, It appears I looked at your sheet and thought it wasn't changed because the ST boost still costs 9 points instead of the 6 that it should. I'm looking at your gear and deciding whether say good or call 'tech fest!'. I think I'm going to call it good. Yes, you used action heavily rather than MH (and wow, on second look it seems a lot of the stuff is the same but your program prefers actions), but it all in one place and easy to navigate (and not weighed down with options). Don't worry about rations, thats part of COL (which we are glossing over. It looks good other than you having three spare points.

Also, see the 'dual nature post below'.

Damn I forgot that I have extra points because the strength is cheaper. Also realized that his patron level wasn't increased. so overall I owe 2 points from somewhere. So I will let you know what I am trimming down.

the_matrix_walker · 01-21-2015, 05:42 PM

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Matrix, I'm sorry if I came across a little harsh, I have verified through several external sources I was grumpy in general yesterday. I think in most cases you mentioned the stuff to me and I didn't really get back to you.

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Originally Posted by ericthered

Clearly I overstepped a bit... As long as you're not grumpy with me, I'm all good!

Please use danger sense rather than precognition.

Check

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Originally Posted by ericthered

I think I'm going to rule against having effects insubstantial on ST. Let me describe why: most insubstantial foes will have proper weaknesses, often only insubstantial vs mortals. The ones who don't have such weaknesses aren't intended to be rendered substantial, and I'd probably just end up slapping cosmic on them. I suggest looking at dual nature (see below) to handle insubstantial enemies that are intended to be physically handled.

Check, I'll remove all the ST based Damage enhancements.

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Originally Posted by ericthered

a 300% enhancement to remove any supernatural or chi power sounds good, fair and proper to me. Place the old restrictions on it.

Are you referring to anything besides "only when drained 1 HP for each 10 points of powers-25%"? The sunlight thing has been off the sheet for a while... If it is my directive to put it on there, so be it (but I'd rather not if I can get away with it).

Given the nature of the drain, and that without the limitation, it would wipe out all powers instantly, would you confirm -25% is the value you want it?

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Originally Posted by ericthered

Yes, I was referring to having alternative enhancements on an alternative ability. Its not kosher, for mathematical reasons. Cap reliable at +4, halve the cost, and specify analysis only. If you want to add the other qualities, you can do so, but either the sense shouldn't be an alternate or you should pay full cost for them.

Check.

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Originally Posted by ericthered

Fill up the remaining points by increasing existing stuff or just falling short, and we should be good.

Sounds good...

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Originally Posted by ericthered

OPTION:
A great deal of supernatural abilities, particularly mind control, insubstantial, and invisibility, are dependent on whether a person is supernatural or mortal. Cursed ones, are by default, mortal. Dual nature is a feature that allows you to count as both supernatural or mortal in most situations. It's a feature: you can touch almost all insubstantial beings, see beings that are invisible to one or the other, and so forth. Both path of body and the appropriate supernatural type effect you. You can be effected by attacks that effect either kind of being, and are effected by true faith and thresholds. This is available to either of our cursed characters.

A variation on that is conscious dual nature: that is: Unusual Background (I can choose if I'm supernatural or mortal depending on the situation)[10]. Such characters can hold back their supernatural nature, or expose it, to individual effects. You ignore thresholds and attacks that only work against one side of your nature, and can interact with effects as either mortal or supernatural. Mages working against you need to be careful about which paths they choose to target what part of you, but Mages working with you can target either part of your nature. . Once again, this is available to either of our cursed characters.

Oooh a discriminatory supernatural nature, I like it!

...but can I find the room for it? ;)

Talosian · 01-21-2015, 06:47 PM

Mostly done with my revision, and I just had a thought (no-one's more surprised than I by this development).

Would it be reasonable to count the cinematic bardic skills as part of the Perform! skill?* Like with cinematic martial arts skills falling under Style!, but requiring a TBaM trait to unlock. This would save Jack some points now, and give him access to the other two bardic skills, but reduce his effective skill with them by one (because of relative skill levels and the relevant attribute).

Also, after I put them into GCS, I noticed that the values of some of Jack's abilities don't match up with your values. Unless you're calculating something differently they should be:
Illusion [62]
Invisibility [58]
Contact Group (Brown) [8]
And either a [10] ability got dropped accidentally, or you miscounted the final cost. It comes out to [87] in GCS right now ([86] if the Nuisance Effect on Night Vision is approved). Cost drops to [77/76] if you allow me to take Persistent off of Illusion.

*It took some effort for this sentence to not end with !?
**I honestly don't even want Jack to be using Captivate yet, so I'd be keeping that one in reserve for a dramatically appropriate moment.

01-21-2015, 08:55 AM	#133
Lamech Join Date: Mar 2011	Re: Monster Hunters: Justice (OCC) Let's see I should type up my common ritual ideas since I'll need to do it anyway, I should specify my shtick and I should spend a lot more of the characters cash so I don't end up trying to fight monsters by throwing gil at them. So play ready, but I'll kick myself later if I don't get typing now? Shtick is just gonna me able to wear a long coat without it getting caught or overly damaged despite the fact that it would normally be an issue. That cool? How about a generalized "clothing/hair doesn't get caught or tangled?" Weight, DR, DB etc. apply of course. __________________ John Cee Martel Hiriko Andrew

01-21-2015, 03:50 PM	#134
ericthered Hero of Democracy Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: far from the ocean	Re: Monster Hunters: Justice (OCC) -53 (disadvantages) + 152 (advantages) = 99 Spoiler: Destiny (Brown Frees Himself) [-10]* Trickster (CR 12) [-15] Revulsion (Iron) [-10] Frightens animals (only when using powers-20%) [-8] Vulnerability (Iron, 1.5) [-10] Illusion (Independence +40%, Area 4 yards +100%, Pact -15%, Magic -10%, fae weaknesses -10%, Persistent +40%, anchors to objects +0%) [63] Invisibility (Pact -15%, magic -10%, fae weaknesses-10%, can carry objects (light encum)+20%, Affects machines +50%,switchable+10%)[60] Elastic Skin (Pact -15%, magic -10%, fae weaknesses -10%)(alternate to invisibility)[14/5=3] Night Vision 5(Pact -15%, magic -10%, fae weaknesses -10%) [4] Contact Group (King of Brown, Fae knowledge, skill 18, appears on 9, unreliable) [10] Status 1 (host of King of Brown) [5] * This curse is probably curable, and brown may eventually figure out a way around it. Jack will probably loose power at this point and will probably gain a powerful fae as an enemy. the King is always available, but is not always playing things seriously -- if the 9 is rolled he's decided to have fun with Jack instead of being helpful. The King will always give somewhat true information if he can -- but on a failure it will be missing some key information designed to result in a "funny" result (he may add in an extra condition, or 'forget' to mention an key item of protocol. Or a valid gate route will be given, but it passes through the lady's room at a mall. Or perhaps brown will include a detail of a fae's weakness that harken's back to a particuarly embarrassing past experience for the fae). Bribes come in the form of behavior, or if the information is critical to jack's survival. This is given as a contact group because of the large range of skills he can give access to. * fae weaknesses: the magic of the king of brown has a number of counters. It is stopped by iron in general and by symbols of luck. Symbols of luck usually attatch themselves to thresholds (however weak). Iron clears the area around it of the illusion, depending on quantity: a nail will just make a three inch hole, while a car will completely clear out its inside and 2 yards around it. If he is in contact with iron, all illusions end. **** As a feature each of these advantages works completely independently on supernaturals and mortals. He can be invisible to mortals while looking like something else to supernaturals, make illusions only one of them can see, and so forth. However, he must activate each effect separately. I'm thinking that the particular emotion this fae delights in is embarrassment (general trickery is a little broad). Low Status is meaningless for someone who can both change his appearance on a whim and has extensive skill at acting. The characters will not be formal members of a monster hunting team (though you may belong to an organization which does so -- we have at least two characters doing this). They need a motivation to go hunting. They will be acquaintances with each other, though not good friends (at least not at first). There are no "Grand" organizations. In addition to Cherion and Luminus Vilgaeas, we also have "The Insiders". All have been player proposed. The main rules are that the government is not in on things (though individuals may be) and nothing is an overarching grand superpower in the supernatural. Feel free to introduce one of your own. Gates can indeed get you in and out of faerie. You pick an area of faerie to have gate knowledge for, and you can get to it from any place you have hidden lore gates for. Brown does not have his own kingdom -- why would trickster faeries hang out together? That's no fun at all. Places he might now well: The Elven Courts: elven lords (and they are all lords) get fulfilment from bossing other fae around. No place for jokes like a sanctimonious court. The Market: Fae gather to barter for deals with each other. This place is about services rather than goods, for the most part. Yet another great place for pranks -- tempers are on the edge, fae are out on limbs, and so forth. The Corners: The parts of faerie closest to mortal cities. This area is mostly used as a place to hide or lurk during the day. While the other two have their own enforcement of sorts, the corners is a wild no-man's land. You can of course get from one part of faerie to another. Take Hidden Lore ( Area of Faerie) rather than area knowledge. It will cover the proper gates as well as how to get around, how to behave, and so forth. Skullcrusher, It appears I looked at your sheet and thought it wasn't changed because the ST boost still costs 9 points instead of the 6 that it should. I'm looking at your gear and deciding whether say good or call 'tech fest!'. I think I'm going to call it good. Yes, you used action heavily rather than MH (and wow, on second look it seems a lot of the stuff is the same but your program prefers actions), but it all in one place and easy to navigate (and not weighed down with options). Don't worry about rations, thats part of COL (which we are glossing over. It looks good other than you having three spare points. Also, see the 'dual nature post below'. Ransom: Ready to go. Lamech: I know the feeling! Refplace: Those would be gadget linked powers, not bonuses to magery. Sorry. I'm not terribly fond of gadgets and magery interacting. Increasing basic damage is bestows a bonus, and its a +2 /+1 per dice deal, and a narrow category (there is a Kromm post on that that came up for initiates war on that). I would not recommend niche protection. Matrix, I'm sorry if I came across a little harsh, I have verified through several external sources I was grumpy in general yesterday. I think in most cases you mentioned the stuff to me and I didn't really get back to you. Please use danger sense rather than precognition. I think I'm going to rule against having effects insubstantial on ST. Let me describe why: most insubstantial foes will have proper weaknesses, often only insubstantial vs mortals. The ones who don't have such weaknesses aren't intended to be rendered substantial, and I'd probably just end up slapping cosmic on them. I suggest looking at dual nature (see below) to handle insubstantial enemies that are intended to be physically handled. a 300% enhancement to remove any supernatural or chi power sounds good, fair and proper to me. Place the old restrictions on it. Yes, I was referring to having alternative enhancements on an alternative ability. Its not kosher, for mathematical reasons. Cap reliable at +4, halve the cost, and specify analysis only. If you want to add the other qualities, you can do so, but either the sense shouldn't be an alternate or you should pay full cost for them. Fill up the remaining points by increasing existing stuff or just falling short, and we should be good. OPTION: A great deal of supernatural abilities, particularly mind control, insubstantial, and invisibility, are dependent on whether a person is supernatural or mortal. Cursed ones, are by default, mortal. Dual nature is a feature that allows you to count as both supernatural or mortal in most situations. It's a feature: you can touch almost all insubstantial beings, see beings that are invisible to one or the other, and so forth. Both path of body and the appropriate supernatural type effect you. You can be effected by attacks that effect either kind of being, and are effected by true faith and thresholds. This is available to either of our cursed characters. A variation on that is conscious dual nature: that is: Unusual Background (I can choose if I'm supernatural or mortal depending on the situation)[10]. Such characters can hold back their supernatural nature, or expose it, to individual effects. You ignore thresholds and attacks that only work against one side of your nature, and can interact with effects as either mortal or supernatural. Mages working against you need to be careful about which paths they choose to target what part of you, but Mages working with you can target either part of your nature. . Once again, this is available to either of our cursed characters. __________________ Be helpful, not pedantic Worlds Beyond Earth -- my blog Check out the PbP forum! If you don't see a game you'd like, ask me about making one!

01-21-2015, 03:50 PM	#135
ericthered Hero of Democracy Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: far from the ocean	Re: Monster Hunters: Justice (OCC) We're going to start pretty quickly. There will be a few of different seeds starting off the story. Some are connected, while others are not. Feel very very free to bring in other PC's when it feels appropriate, or to suggest ways that you could run into each other. If it helps, consider all of you to have serendipity only for the purpose of involving each other in the story. __________________ Be helpful, not pedantic Worlds Beyond Earth -- my blog Check out the PbP forum! If you don't see a game you'd like, ask me about making one! Last edited by ericthered; 01-21-2015 at 04:16 PM.

01-21-2015, 05:30 PM	#137
Talosian Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: California	Re: Monster Hunters: Justice (OCC) Part Two! Everybody Else In terms of character relationships: Refplace: Jack might have encountered Mr. H, but probably nothing more than that. It's possible that Jack might have done something to **** him off in the past, but that's up to you. Matrix: Jack could definitely have encountered Marcus in the past. Maybe they were hunting the same monster. Regardless, I figure Marcus could be one of Jack's contacts for giving the Vigilae a tip. Michael Thayne: In all likelihood, any relationship between Jack and Hugh would have involved Hugh hunting Jack for his sprees of gleeful chaos. Lots of fun potential here. Ransom: Brother Man's Intolerance (Supernatural) guarantees a rocky relationship between him and Jack. I assume that Man would see Jack as either an accomplice or a victim, and either one is guaranteed drama. Lamech: Jack and Lara could get along quite well, since she has Xenophilia, and he's definitely unusual. Exactly what this would look like is up to you, since it depends on how her fascination with the "other" plays out. Skullcrusher: Interactions between Jack and Randal depend on how The Insiders feel about the supernatural/Jack, and whether or not Randal would associate Jack with the fae that killed his family. Either way, they're similarly chaotic, though Jack might be somewhat horrified by how aggressively violent Randal is (Brown would only be mildly offended by the pedestrian nature of direct violence). __________________ "Talosian and Lamech are undead: they keep coming back for a month or two every few years." - ericthered

01-21-2015, 06:47 PM	#140
Talosian Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: California	Re: Monster Hunters: Justice (OCC) Mostly done with my revision, and I just had a thought (no-one's more surprised than I by this development). Would it be reasonable to count the cinematic bardic skills as part of the Perform! skill?* Like with cinematic martial arts skills falling under Style!, but requiring a TBaM trait to unlock. This would save Jack some points now, and give him access to the other two bardic skills, but reduce his effective skill with them by one (because of relative skill levels and the relevant attribute). Also, after I put them into GCS, I noticed that the values of some of Jack's abilities don't match up with your values. Unless you're calculating something differently they should be: Illusion [62] Invisibility [58] Contact Group (Brown) [8] And either a [10] ability got dropped accidentally, or you miscounted the final cost. It comes out to [87] in GCS right now ([86] if the Nuisance Effect on Night Vision is approved). Cost drops to [77/76] if you allow me to take Persistent off of Illusion. It took some effort for this sentence to not end with !? I honestly don't even want* Jack to be using Captivate yet, so I'd be keeping that one in reserve for a dramatically appropriate moment. __________________ "Talosian and Lamech are undead: they keep coming back for a month or two every few years." - ericthered Last edited by Talosian; 01-21-2015 at 10:28 PM.