Nuisance Energy Reserve

[Dusqune]

How would you model a character experiencing increased nuisance effects (or temporary advantages [EDIT:*]) based on the current level of an Energy Reserve?


I'm not sure I explained that well, so...
Examples:
-A Necromancer has an Energy Reserve of 20 points. While he has half or more points currently in his energy reserve, he has the effects of the disadvantage Lifebane.
-A electrokinetic has an Energy Reserve of 50 points. For every five points of energy in the reserve, he gains one level of Noisy.
-A super has an Energy Reserve of 20 points. For every point of energy in the reserve, he takes a -1 to all Overconfidence self-control checks.


I feel like this must have been covered somewhere... but perhaps I don't own the book or am just missing it? In any case, google-fu didn't work out, so...

Thoughts?

[*Meant DIS-advantages here, but I suppose it would be nice to apply it to advantages too.]

[ericthered]

Some of these are easy to do....

the necromancer buys 10 points normally, and 10 points with the temporary disadvantage LifeBane (-10%). for 57 points total;

The electrokinetic is harder. He likely buys 10 sets of noisy, picking up better and better limitations on each. Please note without special permission this can only happen 6 times (0 levels through 5 levels). assuming permission is granted the number goes up to -9, and there is a lot of math that eventually tells you the ability is worth 137 points (average -18% and 0%). thats only if the GM rounds at the end of the calculation though. If not its 141.

The super with a -1 to overconfidence is odd, because normally you don't step things like that, but he can be done with sufficient interpolation. You have to get the GM to agree on a price for SC 14, and you probably want to get a rounding exemption, otherwise you'll miss a lot of the discount.

[Humabout]

You could approach it as an Accessibility limitation on the individual disadvantages. How much it should be worth would depend on how often it would apply. I'd think that for most PCs, they will almost always meet the Accessibility conditions, since ER recharges pretty quickly. Maybe a -10% or less, I'd say. I'm inclined to suggest only -5%.

[Sunrunners_Fire]

Originally Posted by Dusqune

Thoughts?

Accessibility on the advantages, Mitigator on the disadvantages. Accessibility would be valued between -5% and -10%, Mitigator between -60% and -80%.

Leastwise such is how I've been doing it recently. Works well enough.

[Dusqune]

Originally Posted by ericthered

Some of these are easy to do....

the necromancer buys 10 points normally, and 10 points with the temporary disadvantage LifeBane (-10%). for 57 points total;

The electrokinetic is harder. He likely buys 10 sets of noisy, picking up better and better limitations on each. Please note without special permission this can only happen 6 times (0 levels through 5 levels). assuming permission is granted the number goes up to -9, and there is a lot of math that eventually tells you the ability is worth 137 points (average -18% and 0%). thats only if the GM rounds at the end of the calculation though. If not its 141.

The super with a -1 to overconfidence is odd, because normally you don't step things like that, but he can be done with sufficient interpolation. You have to get the GM to agree on a price for SC 14, and you probably want to get a rounding exemption, otherwise you'll miss a lot of the discount.

Fair enough. I hadn't thought about simply treating it piecewise like that.

One question, though--do you just buy the ER's with different limitations with a 0-modifier stating they're all for the same ER pool (for regen purposes)?

[the_matrix_walker]

I wouldn't bother with the Temporary Disad limitations. I think the disadvantages with Accessibility modifiers (even treating a full reserve as a Mitigator) are a better route.

[Langy]

What about the opposite - say, a character with 20 points of ER, but if they're below the halfway mark they suffer the effects of some disadvantage?

(answer: same deal, probably even with the same mitigator/accessibility levels as before)

[roguebfl]

Originally Posted by Dusqune

Fair enough. I hadn't thought about simply treating it piecewise like that.

One question, though--do you just buy the ER's with different limitations with a 0-modifier stating they're all for the same ER pool (for regen purposes)?

I believe they are the same pool the same way you can by an innate attack with different limitation at different levels and be considered the same attack.

However I probably only allow this build with special recharge else the auto regeneration will mean as they refill these temporary disadvantages will kick in

As this build is if they are available to use then the temporary disadvantage is active.