11-19-2023, 06:46 PM | #51 |
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Re: Tolkien magic and game applications
There are limits to how much Catholic doctrine applies to Middle-earth. The Elves did not experience original sin, and if Men did, it was in a very different form than found in Genesis (in some versions, it is accepting Morgoth as their god). One mustn't get too hung up about this sort of thing.
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11-19-2023, 09:31 PM | #52 | |
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That said, there is much allegorical reflection. Especially since one can see Tolkien exploring the issues of sin and salvation... It is doctrinal that all that can sin can be saved, but not all who can be saved shall be. Can the Maiar sin? Clearly - Sauron, Saruman... Can the Elves? Even they can. See also Galadriel denying the ring... Is the Elven apotheosis a full on apocostasis? I've not read enough to know. Which makes me wonder - How many (In Nomine) Forces do elves get? Last edited by ak_aramis; 11-19-2023 at 09:36 PM. |
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11-19-2023, 11:29 PM | #53 | ||
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11-21-2023, 02:48 AM | #54 |
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Re: Tolkien magic and game applications
Or, we could just reexamine the Egyptian Books of the Dead and reanalyze how they might have possibly build the pyramids...seems equally useless at this point to continue this conversation guys. Consider it.
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11-22-2023, 04:24 PM | #55 |
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Re: Tolkien magic and game applications
No actually the Balrog did both. They would have retaken it in a heartbeat if Durin's Bane was not there. They were not afraid of orcs who were by now stricken with an severe strain of deadness.
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