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07-14-2021, 02:51 PM | #1 |
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Weapon master (Bow) cost reduction, and suggestions on Weapon Master (Ranger/Archer)
1. Our group feels with certain weapons for Weapon Master the cost isn't balanced real well. For Weapon Master Bow you get less damage bonus (comparitively to swing bonuses at ST13+), you don't get the reduced multiple parry bonus. Same can be said for other weapons that only use thrust or no parries. We feel the cost for certain specialties should be reduced a bit and I'm looking for suggestions on what a fair reduced cost would be. For instance, Weapon Master (Bow) should be 12 or 15 points rather than 20.
2. The book suggests "knightly weapons" as a group. What other groupings are there in any of the books, if any? What would you suggest? What about something with an archer or ranger using primarily bows? Last edited by Boge; 07-14-2021 at 03:33 PM. |
07-14-2021, 03:12 PM | #2 | |
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Re: Weapon master (Bow) cost reduction, and suggestions on Weapon Master (Ranger/Arch
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07-14-2021, 03:26 PM | #3 |
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Re: Weapon master (Bow) cost reduction, and suggestions on Weapon Master (Ranger/Arch
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07-14-2021, 03:43 PM | #4 |
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Re: Weapon master (Bow) cost reduction, and suggestions on Weapon Master (Ranger/Arch
For Weapon Master you get a +1/die damage boost at skill level of DX+1 or +2/die at DX+2 or greater. This simply turns the per die bonus you'd get into a flat bonus. So if you knew Bow at DX+2 and had Weapon Master (Bow) then you'd get +4 to damage instead of +2/die.
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07-14-2021, 03:58 PM | #5 |
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Re: Weapon master (Bow) cost reduction, and suggestions on Weapon Master (Ranger/Arch
A good way to increase bow damage is to take the Strong Bow perk. It allows you to pull a heavier / higher ST bow which gives you another +1 to damage, effectively. You could just incorporate that into Weapon Master (Bow) for free.
If you want to get more "value" into the advantage, allow Fast Draw (bow) and Fast Draw (Arrow) at bow skill level without needing separate skills if you have Weapon Master (bow). Note it also gives you access to Zen Archery (with Bow 18+ and Meditation), which can be nice at times.
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07-14-2021, 04:01 PM | #6 |
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Re: Weapon master (Bow) cost reduction, and suggestions on Weapon Master (Ranger/Arch
In the past I allowed those with Weapon Master bow to add their Bow skill level to ST to determine the best draw strength they could use. So if you had Bow at DX+5, then you'd add +5 to your ST to determine the highest ST bow you could use. It subsumed Strongbow completely.
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07-14-2021, 06:28 PM | #7 | |
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Generally i would not sweat the WM/Bow thing. Every point of bow damage is so important that the 20pts is totally worth it. It's Heroic Archer that I'm iffy about.
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07-14-2021, 06:22 PM | #8 | |
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Re: Weapon master (Bow) cost reduction, and suggestions on Weapon Master (Ranger/Arch
I kinda love these ideas! Thanks guys, and keep 'em coming if you have them.
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Most of the time our players have higher than skill+2, so does it continue to get higher with skill or does it cap at a certain point? What damage would my ST 13 Broadsword skill 22 be doing with Weapon Master Broadsword? |
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07-14-2021, 06:30 PM | #9 | |
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With my change instead of a bonus per die, it gives a flat bonus to damage. +2 at DX+1 or +4 at DX+2 or greater. That's it. :-)
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10-19-2021, 09:32 PM | #10 | |
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Re: Weapon master (Bow) cost reduction, and suggestions on Weapon Master (Ranger/Arch
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Under Chris' system the same character would do 1d+2, 2d+2, and 3d+2. The bonus is and always shall be 2. |
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