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Old 11-27-2022, 03:19 PM   #1
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What happens when an armed illusion is forced to drop their weapon via a spell, disarming attack, or entering HTH?
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Old 11-27-2022, 04:16 PM   #2
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It disappears as a consequence of the illusion being forced to split.
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Old 11-27-2022, 06:04 PM   #3
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That's how I play it. Whenever an illusion does something it can't, it goes poof.
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Old 11-27-2022, 07:22 PM   #4
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An illusion cannot separate.

So in a forced drop, the illusion looks like the weapon is falling out of the hand, but the illusion figure makes a lunge to the ground while still holding the weapon, looking like he had kept it from falling.

He his now prone and must get up to continue to fight.


OR

The illusion just laughs at the wizard, the disarmer or even the wrester and continues smugly fighting.
Perhaps those viewing this will recognize this and attempt to disbelieve. But maybe not.
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Old 11-27-2022, 07:37 PM   #5
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Just like others: it ends the illusion.

More specifically, the combatants see the illusion get disarmed and as the weapon comes loose the weapon disappears. The viewers cannot believe what they just saw and thus no one can, even if they wanted to, continue to believe this illusion is real. No disbelief roll needed, the illusion just vanishes.
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Old 11-28-2022, 02:25 AM   #6
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So your standard hero uses UC III to toss the illusion to the ground, and as they enter the hex the illusion vanishes?
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Old 11-28-2022, 03:06 AM   #7
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I'm enticed to consider a variant where the illusion's dropped weapon just drops, and lies there unless the same illusion picks it up. But if anyone else touches it, then the whole illusion vanishes.
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Old 11-28-2022, 11:01 AM   #8
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I'm enticed to consider a variant where the illusion's dropped weapon just drops, and lies there unless the same illusion picks it up. But if anyone else touches it, then the whole illusion vanishes.
Seems to me that illusions are already quite powerful for the cost. I prefer the more limiting interpretation.
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Old 11-28-2022, 11:21 AM   #9
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Seems to me that illusions are already quite powerful for the cost. I prefer the more limiting interpretation.
I like the rule of separation of parts of the illusion causing it to disappear. I say this even though one of my characters was on the losing end of that deal. But he did get the benefit of the illusion for several turns prior.

This would apply to any situation. If an illusion is engaged into HTH and they drop anything, they vanish. If they can't drop what they wield (i.e. cestus), then they don't disappear.
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Old 11-28-2022, 01:30 PM   #10
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Illusions of bears are nice like this. Nothing to drop.
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