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 02-08-2007, 06:27 AM #521 Jame   Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: To find me, ask me. Re: So, how great is Kromm anyway? KROMM is one who is dedicated to rooting out all fault in the Work of Steve Jackson Games (which I shall hereafter refer to as the Holy Product, unless I forget). To do this he must stand vigilant against fault in others and himself, and this is why, if he was ever faulty, he has now become faultless. __________________ My bandito takes exception to your bandito! http://www.coinich.com/traveller/portal.php is a Traveller site for a campaign in the Greater Boston, MA, USA area. Last edited by Jame; 02-08-2007 at 10:19 AM.
02-08-2007, 10:05 AM   #522
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Re: So, how great is Kromm anyway?

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 Originally Posted by elShoggotho That's the main problem. Your concept of fallacy is personally biased, as everyone's is, to include certain lines of thinking as inherently faulty. In that way, also due to your way of arguing, no one will be grateful. Your fault is to see your point of view as the objective point, which is neither true nor can ever be true for any being.
Let's talk deductive reasoning.

The existence of a supreme truth is not necessary for it to be possible to recognise faulty arguments. Logic and mathematics are human constructs and therefore do not depend on any ultimate truths. If the rules are followed, the conclusions will be correct for the context.

Therefore, a properly formed logical argument will be recognised as properly formed regardless of personal bias and a logical fallacy seen as such.

Your personal view of the number 4 does not influence your ability to see that 2+3=4 is false.

The same goes for the argument:

KROMM dislikes XY.
XY is made up of the words X and Y.
Therefore KROMM dislikes Y.

The conclusion is not necessitated from the premises, ergo the argument is not logical.

I really don't mean to sound belligerent or hostile, and in fact, I'm used to discussions with people who are able to admit that they are not infallible and are pleased when their mistakes are pointed out. They might be chargrined at having made the mistake, but no adult would ever dream of blaming another person for that. It's better to look stupid once and be able to better next time than to look stupid for all time.

A wise man once said: "Everyone is entitled to his own opinions, but not his own facts." ;)
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 02-08-2007, 05:04 PM #523 elShoggotho     Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Berlin, Germany Re: So, how great is Kromm anyway? It all comes down to the way the truth is conveyed to them. Insh'KROMM! __________________ +++ Divide By Cucumber Error. Please Reinstall Universe And Reboot +++ Last edited by elShoggotho; 02-09-2007 at 02:41 AM. Reason: My typos are a sign that I'm not as perfect as KROMM.
 02-08-2007, 11:10 PM #524 Anders     Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Gothenburg, Sweden Re: So, how great is Kromm anyway? Clearly KROMM is faultless and incapable of committing errors. Clearly he is the GURPS Line Editor. And clearly the GURPS books contain errors. This may seem like a paradox, but it's really not. The errors are there on purpose. They are there to teach us to be sharp of eye and quick of e-mail. They are there to teach us not to expect perfection in this world. They are there to teach us patience with those who share this world with us, for not all can be as flawless as KROMM. So, brethren, cease your bickering and join me in a prayer to the Great Line Editor. __________________ “When you arise in the morning think of what a privilege it is to be alive, to think, to enjoy, to love ...” Marcus Aurelius
 02-09-2007, 12:07 AM #525 Qoltar Pike's Pique     Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio U.S.A. Re: So, how great is Kromm anyway? If you make his head swell from all the compliments like those - will his glasses break and fall to the ground? Yeah - he is a very good game author and all ...but c'mon. Sean , does this stuff make you blush or anything like that? - Ed C. __________________ Take me out to the black Tell them I ain't comin' back Burn the land and boil the sea You can't take the sky from me.... A vote for charity: http://s3.silent-tower.org/TheKlingonVotes/index.html
02-09-2007, 02:28 AM   #526
Mercator

Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Ljubljana, Slovenia
Re: So, how great is Kromm anyway?

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 Originally Posted by Qoltar Sean , does this stuff make you blush or anything like that?
A Klingon asked KROMM: "Does GURPS have Buddha-nature?"
In answer, KROMM shouted: "MU!", and hit the Klingon in the head with the Basic Set: Characters.
The Klingon was then Enlightened.

Cheers,

M.
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Last edited by Mercator; 02-09-2007 at 05:50 AM. Reason: Properly capitalize the Name of KROMM

02-09-2007, 05:46 AM   #527
Jame

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Re: So, how great is Kromm anyway?

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 Originally Posted by Qoltar If you make his head swell from all the compliments like those - will his glasses break and fall to the ground? Yeah - he is a very good game author and all ...but c'mon. Sean , does this stuff make you blush or anything like that? - Ed C.
KROMM is of such a nature as to understand the HIGHER PURPOSE of this thread.

It is for the edification of all who post and read within it.
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 02-10-2007, 04:57 AM #528 Anders     Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Gothenburg, Sweden Re: So, how great is Kromm anyway? It is a common mistake to believe that KROMM is great. He is not - he is the definition of greatness. __________________ “When you arise in the morning think of what a privilege it is to be alive, to think, to enjoy, to love ...” Marcus Aurelius
 02-19-2007, 02:06 PM #529 elShoggotho     Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Berlin, Germany Re: So, how great is Kromm anyway? We should always remember ANDREW HACKARD, He Who Was Before KROMM... __________________ +++ Divide By Cucumber Error. Please Reinstall Universe And Reboot +++
02-19-2007, 02:45 PM   #530

Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Austin, TX
Re: So, how great is Kromm anyway?

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 Originally Posted by elShoggotho We should always remember ANDREW HACKARD, He Who Was Before KROMM...
Not so, not so! For though Hackard was mighty as the managing editor, who held in his hands the holy CONTRACTS, it was Kromm, the mighty, Kromm, the brave, who did line edit the products of GURPS - lo, even in the days of Hackard.
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