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Old 06-06-2016, 12:38 PM   #11
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Fairly simple question. Magic Items only really applies to items that are made using magic. If I want to talk about such items in general or items with undefined source what's the term? And what's the term for the creation process?

And what about other sources? Psionic is often used for Psi made stuff, but what about Chi/Ki? Racial?
The first part of your question seemed straightforward, but then your second part made me doubt my interpretation of the first part.

For the first part: Are you looking for "the word that means an object with powers or capabilities that are added to that object via non-technological processes"? That's a REALLY broad term and I'm pretty sure "layperson" English doesn't have a word for that.

An archaeologist would likely call it a "ritual item", but that's because archaeologists call everything with an unknown use or use beyond its mundane function a "ritual item". To the point where I suspect "art objects" and "executive desk toy" kind of pointless fiddly objects are being labeled "ritual items".
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Old 06-08-2016, 01:21 AM   #12
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The first part of your question seemed straightforward, but then your second part made me doubt my interpretation of the first part.
I'd been kicking around the idea for the post for a bit, but when I started writing it I realized I was asking about specific Power Sources, so I added that bit at the end because I'd need to ask that someday as well.

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For the first part: Are you looking for "the word that means an object with powers or capabilities that are added to that object via non-technological processes"? That's a REALLY broad term and I'm pretty sure "layperson" English doesn't have a word for that.
Pretty much, but rather then non-technological I'd use supernatural or para-normal, quite possibly in the sense that these could be used in place of technology.

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An archaeologist would likely call it a "ritual item", but that's because archaeologists call everything with an unknown use or use beyond its mundane function a "ritual item". To the point where I suspect "art objects" and "executive desk toy" kind of pointless fiddly objects are being labeled "ritual items".
There's a difference?
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Old 06-08-2016, 06:08 AM   #13
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I have a Hellboy figurine on my bookshelf. It doesn't serve a ritual purpose - it is part of no rituals. Decoration is not ritual.

Similarly, a stress ball is not used for a ritual (any more than chewing on pencils or finger-nails is a ritual). There are no rituals around the ball clacker toy, nor around dippy birds.

It's not that archaeology categorizes toys and games as "ritual objects", it's not some sort of catch-all for "not survival related". Identified dice, game boards, childrens dolls, toy wooden horses and so on are not ritual items.

It's not exactly textbook practice to say "I don't know what this is for, it must be a ritual item" - the problem is that it's common for archaeologists to do this. Archaeology is in part creating a narrative around the artifacts discovered; this is a bad trope that keeps getting re-used. Tropes are not wrong! There are ritual items, it's not a mythical category. It's just abused.
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Old 06-08-2016, 07:39 AM   #14
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Fantastic. Works for magic or super-science.
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Old 06-08-2016, 04:27 PM   #15
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Bruno, I was talking about between "art objects" and "executive desk toys". That said, Ritual Objects might be a good one for Magic Items made via RPM
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Old 06-08-2016, 05:16 PM   #16
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I've seen a few fictional sources uses "Artifact" as a generic term for "magic/psi/holy" items; even "precursor artifact" is used in sci-fi to describe devices left behind by precursor races.

The Catholic Church uses the term "Relics" for items or body parts associated with Saints, often times believed to possess divine/magical powers.
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Old 06-08-2016, 06:12 PM   #17
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I like "weird". It can imply magic, psychic, supernatural, super-power, or super-science.
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Old 06-08-2016, 06:17 PM   #18
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go with Enhanced or Augmented. and don't forget

"Any Technolodgy Advanced Enough is Indigestible from Magic"

or my favorite

"Any Technology is Magic to those who do not Understand it"
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