03-07-2021, 09:44 AM | #1 |
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[IW] Consider Flagstaff
There is much to be said for Flagstaff, Arizona, as the setting for an Infinite Worlds campaign, particularly a non-Infinity/Centrum version that uses something other than conveyors to get around:
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03-07-2021, 10:17 AM | #2 | |
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Re: [IW] Consider Flagstaff
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So you can have cyberpunk dystopian cities fenced in with barbed wire even if there isn't that much cyber and a "Resistance" out in the boonies fighting "Greenies" whose uniforms are probably a brighter color than olive drab..
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03-07-2021, 11:39 AM | #3 | |
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Not bad goals, if one could actually get it to work. That's what I meant by optimistic (it works as advertised) vs. dystopian (it gets tried anyway, but it doesn't work). |
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03-07-2021, 02:49 PM | #4 | |
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Re: [IW] Consider Flagstaff
"Consider Flagstaff" sounds like the town business council trying to sell the town to potential IW investors...
While there is interesting stuff there in the last century-plus, and in pre-history, there isn't a lot in the vast gulf in between. Quote:
There's also the 'control the people' aspect seen going back to 1984. And in cyberpunk dystopia, the arcologies don't work right, such as with William Gibson. More modern arcology sci-fi ideas, at least the dystopian kind, seem to be about protecting man from nature, rather than the other way around. Arcologies protect against hurricanes, rising seas, etc. And there's always been a 'protecting us vs. them' aspect, protecting those inside the arcology from those on the outside, wanting to get in, particularly in post-apocalyptic stories. More optimistic sci-fi, such as GURPS Transhuman Space, does see arcologies protecting the environment, but also relies heavily on virtual connections, virtual reality, 'jacking into the web', etc. Of course, these days arcologies main selling point is protecting against outside diseases. One could think of 'bubbles' like the NBA's as a proto-arcology, at least in some ways. |
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03-07-2021, 04:04 PM | #5 | |
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* Of course, that means that you need to have your lower class workers in there somewhere, unless you've managed to automate them away. Another aspect was efficiency, you design in synergies like the wastes from one factory are piped directly to another as raw material.
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03-07-2021, 05:29 PM | #6 | |
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It's not as if there were ever dungeons on Mount San Francisco in our timeline,* even 200,000 years ago before it blew. But a timeline that diverged more than 200,000 years ago where the mountain didn't blow, is still an active volcano, and boasts a megadungeon that was dedicated to producing tools out of meteoric iron before the supply ran out 100 years ago -- that's interesting. * Egyptian tunnels in the Grand Canyon notwithstanding. |
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03-08-2021, 04:32 AM | #7 |
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Re: [IW] Consider Flagstaff
And you are less than 60 miles from Winslow, AZ.
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03-08-2021, 05:44 AM | #8 |
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At least part of the incident referred to in the Eagle's song appears to have taken place in Flagstaff (and involved a Toyota). Undoubtedly didn't scan as well.
Might be a reason to visit WInslow in timeline Holly, though, and see what's become of it. |
03-08-2021, 09:42 AM | #9 |
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Re: [IW] Consider Flagstaff
The scout patrol might find a good use for flagstaff as a base. It close to some fairly remote country suitable for popping a drone into.
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03-08-2021, 12:12 PM | #10 | |
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As such, it seems likely that a cross-dimensional scouting party using Flagstaff as a base could seed probes on transportation moving through the area and achieve a wide spread at relatively low risk. |
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