11-26-2021, 07:49 AM | #21 | |
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11-26-2021, 09:32 AM | #22 |
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Re: Do Shapeshifters duplicate the objects of their victims?
It's a pretty powerful ability. It's Morph and Mystique in one person.
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11-26-2021, 11:10 AM | #23 | |
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The rationalization for this is bit meta... That being the limitation that you are not going to be copying many subjects with powers (at least not potent ones) due to the limitations of the point pool being relatively small. If the characters are based on the same point value, you will not be able to copy your buddy's template, as the cost of the Morph ability will be significantly cutting into the available points. Unlike Power Theft, the point cost of the added abilities has to be accounted for. I can understand a GM wanting to keep things from getting too math-fiddly, but I would probably require a player asking me about such an ability to buy a Detect and a Modular ability linked to basic Morph. |
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11-26-2021, 11:20 AM | #24 |
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Re: Do Shapeshifters duplicate the objects of their victims?
Well there's always Modular abilities. That would create an upper limit to what you can copy but usually won't be an issue if you aren't building on a budget and know what they'll be up against.
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11-26-2021, 03:25 PM | #25 | |
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11-26-2021, 04:27 PM | #26 | |
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Morph works like a lot like a big slot that covers abilities limited to a single racial template. I've used it that way treating each Super like a race unto itself (with Cosmic +50%) and it didn't seem to be a problem. |
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11-26-2021, 05:08 PM | #27 | |
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11-26-2021, 06:05 PM | #28 | |
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That said, I don't know if Morph that copies an individual (rather than just matching their Racial Template) should have an Enhancement. P74 doesn't call for one for the "doppleganger" archetype, but it also doesn't address what the doppleganger copies - just appearance, Attribute scores, skills, what? I can certainly see cause for an Enhancement, however, particularly if special abilities (like a Super's powers) and skills can be copied.
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11-26-2021, 07:41 PM | #29 | |
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Any time you have morph, you cannot copy a template that you have insufficient points in your personal racial template + added points in Morph. If you retain the restriction, the character won't be able to impersonate their peers, and could only become a doppelganger of less powerful supers and normals. So I think it's situationally fine. I absolutely agree it is better represented by several advantages working in tandem. |
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11-27-2021, 06:41 AM | #30 | |
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My experience has been that using morph and modular pools that have limit on duping is far more balanced than power theft. |
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