Opinions on Mongoose's Traveller?

Pragmatic · 11-09-2021, 02:58 PM

Is there any new ideas to merge into the GURPS 3e classic, for instance?

sjard · 11-09-2021, 05:38 PM

1st edition is not much more than a slightly expanded (skill list mostly) version of CT. Biggest change I can think of is a small section on alternate FTL, but nothing that would be new to GURPS.

2e (not revised as I haven't seen that yet, which mostly seems to just add back ship construction rules based on the ToC): is mostly the same as 1e, with some of the stuff (ship construction, vehicles stuff) being moved to sourcebooks. They added a bunch of isometric maps, and changed the designation of some ships. Biggest change to the rules was adding boon/bane dice which functions more or less like a d6 equivalent to D&D 5e's advantage/disadvantage.

At least, that's all I can think of off the top of my head. Been a while since I used either of them.

Mark Caliber · 11-09-2021, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Pragmatic

Is there any new ideas to merge into the GURPS 3e classic, for instance?

Go to Warehouse 23 http://www.warehouse23.com/ and search for GURPS Traveller.

It came out in GURPS 3rd Edition so what you're asking for already exists (unless I am misunderstanding the request).

AOTA · 11-09-2021, 11:21 PM

I use some of the campaign supplements with my GURPS 4th edition Traveller game. Currently using the Pirates of Drinax. Fun campaign and pretty easy to convert to whatever version of GURPS or Traveller you use.

RogerBW · 11-10-2021, 07:35 AM

Rules: it feels like someone's hugely expanded house rules for classic Traveller much more than it feels like a new game. This is good IMO: people who want the classic Traveller rules flavour won't be lost, but there are enough options that you're unlikely to get characters who feel samey.

Background: pretty decent, some good campaigns, and if you're already reasonably fluent in classic Traveller very easy to adapt to other systems.

Pragmatic · 11-10-2021, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Caliber

Go to Warehouse 23 http://www.warehouse23.com/ and search for GURPS Traveller.

It came out in GURPS 3rd Edition so what you're asking for already exists (unless I am misunderstanding the request).

I think I missed some of the world and starship maps, but other than that, I've got everything from GURPS CLASSIC: Traveller.

sjard · 11-11-2021, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Pragmatic

I think I missed some of the world and starship maps, but other than that, I've got everything from GURPS CLASSIC: Traveller.

In which case, there really isn't anything new, mechanically, from either edition of Mongoose Traveller that isn't already available in GURPS Traveller.

Setting material is mostly mechanic free (and amusingly for some of the Mongoose 1e third imperium stuff, contains GT timeline info as they're by the same author as the GT version), and so you'd just use the GT mechanics.

Pragmatic · 11-13-2021, 01:08 PM

Thanks all for the info, saves me a ton of money! :)

DeadParrot · 11-13-2021, 02:01 PM

Our current Traveller game is being ran in the Mongoose 2nd ed rules system but the GM has borrowed some of my GURPS Traveller books, (Nobles and Behind the Claw, so far) because they have better setting write ups.

As a player, I find the GURPS material far better for fleshing out a character background even if the character creation is done in a different system.

11-09-2021, 02:58 PM	#1
Pragmatic Ceci n'est pas une tag. Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Vancouver, WA (Portland Metro)	Opinions on Mongoose's Traveller? Is there any new ideas to merge into the GURPS 3e classic, for instance? __________________ I'm a collector, not a gamer. =)

11-09-2021, 05:38 PM	#2
sjard Stick in the Mud Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Rural Utah	Re: Opinions on Mongoose's Traveller? 1st edition is not much more than a slightly expanded (skill list mostly) version of CT. Biggest change I can think of is a small section on alternate FTL, but nothing that would be new to GURPS. 2e (not revised as I haven't seen that yet, which mostly seems to just add back ship construction rules based on the ToC): is mostly the same as 1e, with some of the stuff (ship construction, vehicles stuff) being moved to sourcebooks. They added a bunch of isometric maps, and changed the designation of some ships. Biggest change to the rules was adding boon/bane dice which functions more or less like a d6 equivalent to D&D 5e's advantage/disadvantage. At least, that's all I can think of off the top of my head. Been a while since I used either of them. __________________ MIB #1457

11-09-2021, 11:21 PM	#4
AOTA MIB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Olathe, KS	Re: Opinions on Mongoose's Traveller? I use some of the campaign supplements with my GURPS 4th edition Traveller game. Currently using the Pirates of Drinax. Fun campaign and pretty easy to convert to whatever version of GURPS or Traveller you use. __________________ Bob Gilson Mib#3477 Formally Bobzilla GURPS Checker for Prime Directive

11-10-2021, 07:35 AM	#5
RogerBW Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: near London, UK	Re: Opinions on Mongoose's Traveller? Rules: it feels like someone's hugely expanded house rules for classic Traveller much more than it feels like a new game. This is good IMO: people who want the classic Traveller rules flavour won't be lost, but there are enough options that you're unlikely to get characters who feel samey. Background: pretty decent, some good campaigns, and if you're already reasonably fluent in classic Traveller very easy to adapt to other systems. __________________ Podcast: Improvised Radio Theatre - With Dice Gaming stuff here: Tekeli-li! Blog; Webcomic Laager and Limehouse Buy things by me on Warehouse 23

11-13-2021, 01:08 PM	#8
Pragmatic Ceci n'est pas une tag. Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Vancouver, WA (Portland Metro)	Re: Opinions on Mongoose's Traveller? Thanks all for the info, saves me a ton of money! :) __________________ I'm a collector, not a gamer. =)

11-13-2021, 02:01 PM	#9
DeadParrot Join Date: Apr 2012	Re: Opinions on Mongoose's Traveller? Our current Traveller game is being ran in the Mongoose 2nd ed rules system but the GM has borrowed some of my GURPS Traveller books, (Nobles and Behind the Claw, so far) because they have better setting write ups. As a player, I find the GURPS material far better for fleshing out a character background even if the character creation is done in a different system.