07-25-2014, 04:34 PM | #1 |
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Grappling confusions
Hi,
A few questions please... 1. If you grapple someone, what defences can you take? Obviously you can't Parry or Block with any arm you are using to grapple, but can you Dodge? What about Retreat and is that limited by the 'can't move unless x2 ST' rule? 2. The defender is at -4 DX for the limb that is grappled, but am I right in saying that they may not attack with that limb, even with a DX penalty? So they would need to break free first? Thanks |
07-25-2014, 04:53 PM | #2 | |
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Re: Grappling confusions
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The box on page 371 says "You cannot use any limb that has been grappled" in relation to making attacks after being grappled.
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07-26-2014, 12:27 AM | #3 |
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Re: Grappling confusions
OK thank you for that.
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07-26-2014, 10:23 AM | #4 |
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Re: Grappling confusions
You might find my Unarmed Combat Flowchart helpful.
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07-26-2014, 01:45 PM | #5 | |||
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Re: Grappling confusions
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Also note that you can parry with a limb that you are using to grapple but, again, only if you let go. Quote:
*Okay so now I have my own grappling question, if you don't mind. Martial Arts page 122 under "What Is . . . a Parry?" notes that you can use an unarmed combat skill to parry a "grappling technique" (original emphasis) with a hands-free counter. Does a basic grab or takedown count as a "grappling technique"? What about a grappling technique being used with a weapon? Also: I remember at one point reading (or misreading) that you can use your grappling skill based Parries freely against someone you are grappling (as in "against any attack they make") by pulling and pushing them to disrupt their attack (ie without letting go of them). Did I just make that up? Or can someone point me to that rule? |
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07-26-2014, 02:17 PM | #6 | ||
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Re: Grappling confusions
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07-26-2014, 04:12 PM | #7 |
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Re: Grappling confusions
Spending Control Points to improve a parry or dodge while grappling is a nice house rule if using Technical Grappling. I either talked about it here on the forums, or on my blog. I'm searching, but yeah - if you have grappled your foe, spending CP to improve your defenses seems legit.
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07-28-2014, 08:53 AM | #8 |
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Re: Grappling confusions
The official word on what defenses you're allowed to use when grappled/grappling is one of the few things in a supplement that I feel ought to be in the Basic Set, so here you go:
Defense While Grappling
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