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[Gold & Appel Inc]

Originally Posted by Mark Skarr

High-Heeled Heroine. It's a game. And, a girl once told me that it was easier to "grind" down a railing with heels since you could latch htem over one edge and have a better center of balance. Don't know about that, but hey, it works for game logic.

Yeah, I'd buy this in any campaign cinematic enough for HHH in the first place (at a minimum - might demand a playtest if faced with a specific claim such as the one above regarding a realistic campaign, but it wouldn't be off the table outright).

Originally Posted by Mark Skarr

Yeah, well, most guys, when they see a muscled woman suddenly get scared. It's like ballet-dancer feet: there's a fetish for it, but it's not mainstream. I had a number of guys think that Pink's abdomen, in this picture, was too muscular to be attractive.

A fetish refers to a compelling attraction to something that is normally considered non-sexual (eg: feet), which isn't the category that I'd personally place, "possessing a healthy, active body," in. How confident in their masculinity are these guys you showed it to?

[Gorkamorka]

Originally Posted by Mark Skarr

(Oh, and yes, that is a "Me thinks thou dost protest too much," bit, if anyone's wondering . . ..)

So Mark...I have a challenge. There is no question that you have skill. One can see that by looking at how much you have improved since you started to post your images. But I think you could try to break your mold a bit and try something slightly different then you have been doing. Re-do Jessi with a body like This and if you want the high heels at least use shoes like These. Of course she would still have to wear just the bear minimum of clothing (Goes without saying)

What do you think?

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by Mark Skarr

Okay, Pink's skinny, but I wouldn't say she's anorexic.

To be fair, modern comic book versions of Supergirl are also anorexic twigs. Sailor What's Her Name is also really skinny (and has no muscles despite toting around swords). The other two are merely thin with no muscle definition.

[Mark Skarr]

Originally Posted by Kromm

Sure, sure. ;) Gotta wonder why what "most guys" think matters to a thief who exploits Parkour. If she's doing her thief job right, "most guys" won't ever see her, and maybe she should try to scare off the ones who do.

That's what the gun is for. And the magician's handcuffs. And the guy with the M-14 who's watching her butt. She's part of a party, so she relies on the other team members.

Originally Posted by Kromm

And Parkour comes with a philosophical mindset that puts a healthy self-image (like fit, with good muscle tone) before what others (like "most guys") think. But that's just me . . . given the choice between "skinny," "average," "athletic," and "heavy," I'll pick "athletic" every time both in others and as a (probably unattainable) goal for myself.

I'm in shape. "Round" is a shape. Hence, I'm in shape. ;-)

Well, at the beginning point of the game, Jessi is in a highly self-destructive phase as her emotional anchor, Jasmine, has vanished (literally, right before her eyes), her father has fallen into a coma and her mother has had a nervous breakdown. She's going to the group therapy session, with the rest of the party as a condition of her parole.

And I go with "Hollywood Casting:" Mutant Porn Star over Actual Athlete.

And I give you a very, very rough version of Sturdy Woman!
(And she's not turned up to maximum.)

[Mark Skarr]

Originally Posted by Gorkamorka

What do you think?

I didn't see this before my last response. I had actually loaded Jessi back in the engine (after taking the shot of Sturdy Woman), to give her more definition.

I had never seen those shoes before, but they are awesome. I don't have anything close to them, but I'll see what I can do.

[nightwind1]

You do excellent work, man, but I'd love to see more characters that don't look like Lesbian Stripper Ninjas.

[Mark Skarr]

Originally Posted by Gold & Appel Inc

Yeah, I'd buy this in any campaign cinematic enough for HHH in the first place (at a minimum - might demand a playtest if faced with a specific claim such as the one above regarding a realistic campaign, but it wouldn't be off the table outright).

Yeah, I believe it as far as I can throw it. But, with HHH, I don't see it as being relevant. And, it makes for a good story. ;-)

Originally Posted by Gold & Appel Inc

A fetish refers to a compelling attraction to something that is normally considered non-sexual (eg: feet), which isn't the category that I'd personally place, "possessing a healthy, active body," in. How confident in their masculinity are these guys you showed it to?

A couple of them were very confident. The rest, yeah, not so much. A couple of them were my lesbian friends, and they're split on the issue. Some of them like a voluptous, muscular woman (which I really find as an oxy-moron), and others like very slender, petite women (like me--er, like I like, not like I'm a petite woman . . . nevermind).

Originally Posted by nightwind1

You do excellent work, man, but I'd love to see more characters that don't look like Lesbian Stripper Ninjas.

I don't think I have any lesbian characters . . . nope. I know a number, but no. And very few of my characters are ninjas. But, several of my characters have been strippers. ;-) I mean, I wouldn't be much of a pervert if they weren't, right?

Here's a rough, updated version of Jessi. The stockings did not like her new legs, so they had to get lost, which is too bad as the character usually wears them. So, different shoes and much more defined muscles (also, the legs did get bulked up a bit).

I've just grabbed 8 more cores for rendering from MonkeyFist as I'm about to be out for the rest of the day. It'll be early tomorrow before I post a "final" version of Jessi.

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by Mark Skarr

Here's a rough, updated version of Jessi. The stockings did not like her new legs, so they had to get lost, which is too bad as the character usually wears them. So, different shoes and much more defined muscles (also, the legs did get bulked up a bit).

She's still skinny, but strong/underfed is a different look that fits the concept. However, I'd be tempted to make the face skinnier and bonier, and also make the hair shorter and less lustrous (long loose hair isn't a great plan for anything athletic, and it generally makes 'underfed' look more like a deliberate theme).

[robkelk]

Originally Posted by Mark Skarr

Yeah, well, most guys, when they see a muscled woman suddenly get scared. It's like ballet-dancer feet: there's a fetish for it, but it's not mainstream. I had a number of guys think that Pink's abdomen, in this picture, was too muscular to be attractive. So, it got toned down, and the pants (which I really liked), got changed to a miniskirt.

Which is a shame, because I think the earlier version is the best image of Pink I've seen.

Originally Posted by Mark Skarr

Sailor, uh, what's-her-name (I'll have to check with Rob, I forget), isn't anorexic!

Sailor Pisces, bodyguard to Queen Serenity in Gernsback-2.

(Yes, the anime fans made it into the solar system in Gernsback-2...)

Originally Posted by nightwind1

You do excellent work, man, but I'd love to see more characters that don't look like Lesbian Stripper Ninjas.

Which is one big reason why we've borrowed some of it (with permission!) for Gernsback-2.

[Mark Skarr]

Final render of Jessi. That is to say that the render is complete, but other changes can still be made.

Originally Posted by Anthony

She's still skinny, but strong/underfed is a different look that fits the concept. However, I'd be tempted to make the face skinnier and bonier, and also make the hair shorter and less lustrous (long loose hair isn't a great plan for anything athletic, and it generally makes 'underfed' look more like a deliberate theme).

I liked her face being more round. I thought her larger eyes emphasized her slenderness.

I like long hair, so, she's going to keep it. Normally, she just ties it back behind her head.

The character isn't being deliberate, she's just being self-destructive.

Originally Posted by robkelk

Which is a shame, because I think the earlier version is the best image of Pink I've seen.

I have this verson of Pink because I liked the pants, but then I was out-voted on the pants/skirt issue.

Originally Posted by robkelk

Sailor Pisces, bodyguard to Queen Serenity in Gernsback-2.

Ah, yes. I'm horrible with names.

Originally Posted by robkelk

Which is one big reason why we've borrowed some of it (with permission!) for Gernsback-2.

I have a section in Gernsback-2? Wow. Goes to show how much I look around the wiki. But, then again, it is a bit overwhelming for someone who's just there to throw pictures at you.