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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: 100 hurricane swamp
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Is it perhaps... that you have some skill? They person I knew who spent 3 days failing to make a simple fishing spear is not hyperbole. He'd never dealt with construction anything of wood before, but he had plenty of experience using wood products (tool handles, furniture). But no, he didn't know you needed to find a good seasoned piece of wood, or that too many crooks or a curve makes using it difficult, about finding the right thickness, how to spot the difference between seasoned and dry and brittle. Then he had difficulty just smoothing and shaping the prongs, and attaching them almost proved too much. Did he finally make a decent(ish) fishing spear? Yes, after days of "Spear making isn't hard, after all primitives could do it!", even after discovering that survival was hard even though "primitives could do it". It is a skill roll. Armoury/TL 0 (IQ-5). Though yeah, I'd give a +2 with a successful Survival roll (or just let them make Survival -3) for a simple all wood spear. |
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Join Date: Sep 2007
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Apparently, for making fire-hardened wooden spears, you want green wood, not seasoned. Not only does that help keep the spear from burning up during the process, boiling out the sap seems to help create a varnish layer that hardens the tip further. If you're following the ancient technique of sharpening by grinding the tip against a rock rather than whittling, the stone particles embedded in the varnish add to the effect.
http://www.ancientcraft.co.uk/Projects/spear/spear.html http://www.outdoorlife.com/blogs/sur...hardened-spear |
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#23 |
Join Date: Oct 2004
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Spear fishing is clearly a Survival skill; making a spear to hunt/trap animals for food is clearly Survival, too. I would make the PC who is making a simple fire-hardened spear a survival "tool" and probably at +5 or more (routine use) in many cases. If you have to make a spear with absolutely no tools while trying to survive in the wild, it might require a flat skill roll (stressed). As other's have said, there are a variety of other skills involved in this task -- Armoury or Machinist might be used as well, especially in making spears with stone points.
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#24 |
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Forest Grove, Beaverton, Oregon
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I hate that bigotry. Low tech does not mean stupid.
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#25 |
Banned
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: 100 hurricane swamp
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It's the only reason the rest of us on the survival course let him flounder and go (slightly) hungry (we had to catch or find our own food and he was determined to catch and eat a fish).
By the end of the first week Mr. Civilization Equals Intellignece was pretty damned humble. By the end of week two he had a very deep appreciation of how smart you have to be to survive with out "City Life". |
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Forest Grove, Beaverton, Oregon
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It's a sad subset of the "everything I know is hard, while everything you know is easy." Or my problems are hard and out of my control, while yours are character flaws and whining.
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Seoul, Korea
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armoury, crafting, spear, survival |
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