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Re: Would Magic Resistence With Area Effect Protect Me From All Magic?
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11-26-2018, 05:16 AM | #22 | |
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Re: Would Magic Resistence With Area Effect Protect Me From All Magic?
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The FAQ is not all that helpful in this as it simply says "Temporary and lasting spells are simply dispelled by a no mana zone (NMZ). Permanent spells and enchantments are merely suspended, and resume their normal function once they leave the NMZ." |
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11-26-2018, 04:51 PM | #23 | |||
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Re: Would Magic Resistence With Area Effect Protect Me From All Magic?
I've dove into this...
My ruling above is based on 3e... where Missile Spells weren't magical once created. Quote:
So it's possible that somewhere along the way thinking has changed. Someone should probably flag down Kromm. Quote:
As an MR Field still only affects Resistible spells. Now an Afflicted MR Field will affect the mage trying to cast if they are within the field. * It's probably Lasting (since you don't maintain them and they have definitive triggers that end them), which means No Mana Zones are No Go Zones for missile spells. Of course, I've also just come across a mistake in the FAQ: Quote:
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11-26-2018, 04:56 PM | #24 | ||
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11-26-2018, 07:19 PM | #25 |
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Re: Would Magic Resistence With Area Effect Protect Me From All Magic?
In that case "magical force" probably just means force that is created by magic but functions like mundane force otherwise.
As for stuff like DR (Limited, Magic) still stopping them, Psi appears to work the same way. I think Psionic Power said something like damage from stuff thrown by TK is still stopped by DR (Limited, Psi)? I'm not sure how far removed you'd need to be here, I guess 2 steps like as long as the power source is touching the thing that touches the thing that smushes you, it no longer counts as a magic/psi attack, but only 1 step removed and despite being removed enough not to be jammed, it still carries the flavor for DR purposes. |
11-26-2018, 08:20 PM | #26 |
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Re: Would Magic Resistence With Area Effect Protect Me From All Magic?
That's problematic, evileeyore. How does the spell Acid Ball work and how does the perk physic guidance work?
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11-26-2018, 10:58 PM | #27 | ||
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So... eh. I wouldn't allow DR (Limited Psi, -20%) to affect a TK Bullet, but that's my games. Once it's left the TKer's 'psychic hands' it stops being 'psychic'. But again, that's me. In what manner? Quote:
B - It throws the Missile downrange using your skill with the spell rather than Innate Attack (Missile Spell). It's not like it's homing or requires further magic once launched. Last edited by evileeyore; 11-26-2018 at 11:04 PM. |
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11-27-2018, 12:17 AM | #28 |
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Re: Would Magic Resistence With Area Effect Protect Me From All Magic?
(A) So somehow this non-magical ball of acid is magically not dissolving my hands or coming apart when I throw it?
(B) Opps, I forgot exactly what that one did. |
11-27-2018, 02:29 AM | #29 | |
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You could surmise, if you wished, that magic remains in use to protect your hand while holding it, thus causing you to drop it if you entered a No Mana Zone. Which is probably how I'd rule if I used No Mana Zones. But I don't. |
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11-27-2018, 11:54 AM | #30 |
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Re: Would Magic Resistence With Area Effect Protect Me From All Magic?
If as-statted "Limited, Psi" and "Limited, Magic" affect psionically and magically energy or matter, excluding magically created energy/matter which can successfully cross a No-Mana Zone from your DR might be a step further down in rarity providing a higher value limitation?
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