[Supers] Laser Vision build

[CeeDub]

Salutations!

How would you build the kind of laser vision that the likes of Superman and Homelander have? Point efficiency is, of course, appreciated, but rules-legal is more important. I think the benchmark for damage output should be "can reliably one-shot a modern Main Battle Tank".

To that end, I would start with Cosmic: Irresistible Attack, +300%, to ignore DR; and one level of Cosmic: Ignores Hardened, +50%, for good measure.

A "sweep" in a frontal arc of at least 30° should also be possible. Cone + Selectivity seems like the natural choice here, but since Cone is priced based on the width of the cone at max range, and max range is LOS, so that's complicated. Also, the cost of Cone is completely broken, so... alternatives? Rapid Fire?

Increased Range (LOS) is likely, so +40%, or +70% if we add the Jet modifier. The latter would, of course, preclude Rapid Fire, Area Effect and Cone.

How would you build it?

[Arcanjo7Sagi]

Originally Posted by CeeDub

Salutations!

To that end, I would start with Cosmic: Irresistible Attack, +300%, to ignore DR; and one level of Cosmic: Ignores Hardened, +50%, for good measure

Superman's Heat Vision doesn't have Cosmic. Some tough emenies can resist. You can build your power based on Heat Vision from Supers and then add Armor Divisor (5) or (10). You can also take a look at Ultratech weapons to have some ideas.

[CeeDub]

Originally Posted by Arcanjo7Sagi

Superman's Heat Vision doesn't have Cosmic. Some tough emenies can resist.

Well, I figure that anyone who isn't immediately reduced to -5xHP or worse has Injury Tolerance (Damage Reduction), so Cosmic may still be on the table, IMHO.

[awesomenessofme1]

The example MBT from High-Tech has HP 176 and DR 1155 on its main armor. Only HT9, though, so if you can deal enough damage to reduce it to negatives, it will likely be disabled. As such, if you do actually use Cosmic (Ignores DR), 50d is about the lowest you can build a power like this with, if "oneshots an MBT" is your benchmark.

[khorboth]

50d burning attack. No half-d. Continuious. Wildcard power.

Nothing else needed.

[Fred Brackin]

Originally Posted by awesomenessofme1

The example MBT from High-Tech has HP 176 and DR 1155 on its main armor. Only HT9, though, so if you can deal enough damage to reduce it to negatives, it will likely be disabled. k.

Note that is for a T-72 and not what some people would consider a "real" MBT.

An Abrahms, Leopard II or Challenger would have 50% more armor (Front) but you're Cosmicking your way past that. They'd also weigh 33% more and have something like 204 HP.

So that's 60D and that's only for a breakdown and not an actual "Kill". If you want scrap metal you're going to need 2x that (or more).

[Anders]

So that's... what? 1,000 points? 1,200?

[Sorenant]

If Cosmic (Ignores DR) is on table, how about a weaker attack with high rapid fire instead of a single powerful attack? Between the low Rcl, bonus to hit, relatively short distance (Supes doesn't snipe tanks) and potentially high Acc and ESL, it should hit enough times to disable a tank and Spraying Fire can be used for sweep attacks. Another upside is that tough enemies that can resist it only needs to buy a fairly low amount of cosmic DR.
Edit: If you opt out of Cosmic, the ability to fly should make it easy to flank a tank and aiming for its vital spot gives a wounding modifier that should make it easier to damage it. Tanks also has Fragile (Explosive) and low HT so making them explode (go to -10xHP) is feasible. Edit2: Or just apply mook rules to tanks.

[CeeDub]

Originally Posted by Sorenant

If Cosmic (Ignores DR) is on table, how about a weaker attack with high rapid fire instead of a single powerful attack? Between the low Rcl, bonus to hit, relatively short distance (Supes doesn't snipe tanks) and potentially high Acc and ESL, it should hit enough times to disable a tank and Spraying Fire can be used for sweep attacks.

That's pretty much my current build. I'm not super (get it?) happy with it, because the Rapid Fire rules are very much built for spray-and-pray bullet hoses, so at high RoF, nearly all shots will miss. After reviewing Ultra-Tech (thanks, Arcanjo7Sagi), Acc 12 does not seem unusual for beam weapons, so that will help, but it still has the feel of a laser gatling rather than a tight, recoil-less beam that slices through everything in its path.

Edit: I also thought about Very Rapid Fire, but VRF does not allow attacking multiple targets, so no sweeps.

[naloth]

Originally Posted by CeeDub

How would you build it?

Given those parameters I'd go:

IA: Burn 10d (Acc +5 +25%; AP/100 +300%; RoF 20, selective +160%; Variable +5%; Total +500%) [300]

That's +4 unaimed (from RoF), and +12 aimed if he lets his eyes glow for a maneuver before firing. At an immobile target who's SM => the range penalty, this automatically hits with either half or all shots (buildings, stationary tanks, etc). It can also spray across multiple targets fairly well.

Against a tank HP 176 and DR 1155, it would do (35 avg - DR 12) 23 damage per hit, needing 7 hits to reduce it to 0. That's easily done with a bit a second rev'ing up his glowing eyes before letting loose on it.