GURPS Dungeon Fantasy 19: Incantation Magic

[Malfi]

I just read the grimoire and found it really valuable in seeing how some things actually work. Some I didnt expect like Black Blade and Radiant shield (I thought only the elementalism path could do sth like this.)
I am pretty sure Black Blade and Radiant shield counts toward the max 2 "buffing" incantation spells limit, but what about effects that simply improve what the weapons/armor already do (as described in elementalism strengthen)?

Also can you dismiss spells? I can't find something about this anywhere.

[Pseudonym]

Originally Posted by Malfi

I just read the grimoire and found it really valuable in seeing how some things actually work. Some I didnt expect like Black Blade and Radiant shield (I thought only the elementalism path could do sth like this.)
I am pretty sure Black Blade and Radiant shield counts toward the max 2 "buffing" incantation spells limit, but what about effects that simply improve what the weapons/armor already do (as described in elementalism strengthen)?

Also can you dismiss spells? I can't find something about this anywhere.

In RPM it is a destroy magic effect, that needs at least as much energy as the original effect (plus the destroy magic effect) so probably destroy arcana + enough energy to dispel.
Kinda curious how it interacts with vanilla magic now that you say it though.

[Christopher R. Rice]

Originally Posted by Malfi

I just read the grimoire and found it really valuable in seeing how some things actually work. Some I didnt expect like Black Blade and Radiant shield (I thought only the elementalism path could do sth like this.)
I am pretty sure Black Blade and Radiant shield counts toward the max 2 "buffing" incantation spells limit, but what about effects that simply improve what the weapons/armor already do (as described in elementalism strengthen)?

You get two buffing effects - period.

Originally Posted by Malfi

Also can you dismiss spells? I can't find something about this anywhere.

p. 17. It takes a Concentrate maneuver and the caster has to be able to speak and move freely. No rollneeded.

[Christopher R. Rice]

Originally Posted by Pseudonym

In RPM it is a destroy magic effect, that needs at least as much energy as the original effect (plus the destroy magic effect) so probably destroy arcana + enough energy to dispel.
Kinda curious how it interacts with vanilla magic now that you say it though.

This is covered under Magic vs. Magic (p. 21). It functions normally except you count twice the energy cost (before reductions for high skill) as a bonus in the caster's contest.

[Malfi]

Originally Posted by Ghostdancer

You get two buffing effects - period.



p. 17. It takes a Concentrate maneuver and the caster has to be able to speak and move freely. No rollneeded.

Thanks a lot for answering! I read that part but then couldn't find it again.

[Christopher R. Rice]

Originally Posted by Malfi

Thanks a lot for answering! I read that part but then couldn't find it again.

Sure. If you have any questions, post them here and I or Toni will answer them as soon as we can.

[Kuroshima]

Originally Posted by Malfi

Thanks a lot for answering! I read that part but then couldn't find it again.

We had to pack a lot of stuff in there. Don't worry if you miss some of it in your first read. I co-wrote it and I'm still amazed at the amount of stuff we managed to cram in (and before continuing, let's all thank PK for really tightening the wordings).

Originally Posted by Ghostdancer

Sure. If you have any questions, post them here and I or Toni will answer them as soon as we can.

Indeed. We've been sitting on this for so long...

[Christopher R. Rice]

Originally Posted by Kuroshima

...(and before continuing, let's all thank PK for really tightening the wordings).

Yeah, this wouldn't have been half the book it is without the editors who worked on tihs.

[Blind Mapmaker]

Originally Posted by Ghostdancer

You get two buffing effects - period.

Can't say how much I like that rule. Very good call!

[Christopher R. Rice]

Originally Posted by Blind Mapmaker

Can't say how much I like that rule. Very good call!

Thanks. This was something that brewed in my head from *very* early on and when Bruno brought it up during the playtest I decided it needed to be in there. Heck, I'm using this in my Aeon campaign right now because it's so sensible even though I'm using Sorcery as the base system.