08-02-2021, 07:21 PM | #1 |
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Questions on Basic Lift (BL).
How much does using two hands increase BL if you don't increase the time taken?
Does adding further hands (via Extra Arms) increase BL even further? Is the weight intended to start from foot level or shoulder level? (Encountered this one on reddit after a Google search; it's not really that important.)
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08-03-2021, 02:33 AM | #2 | |
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Re: Questions on Basic Lift (BL).
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option 1 > option 2 implies double time = double lift (or half time is half lift) ergo if we reverse engineer option 3, half the time of 4 seconds implies a 2H lift in 2 seconds would be 4xBL... which is really just the sum of 2xBL + 2xBL The real question is: why can't you do a 1-arm lift of 4xBL in 4 seconds? |
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My guess would be an efficiency thing - two hands are more efficient than one, which isn't quite met by simply doubling BL.
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08-03-2021, 06:24 AM | #4 |
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Re: Questions on Basic Lift (BL).
I prefer the revised rules from the Dungeon Fantasy Roleplaying Game. Consider this "free sample" an ad for that game's improvements!
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08-03-2021, 06:45 AM | #5 | |
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But it's probably a useful case to consider if for no other reason that it could simplify having a bunch of people lift together.
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08-03-2021, 06:53 AM | #6 | |
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That latter bit is easy - just add together everyone's BL (or rather effective BL, assuming their using two hands and taking extra time). It should probably take at least twice as long as normal (so using two hands to lift at 8xBL would take 8 seconds, not 4), however, unless the characters involved have Teamwork or similar (someone with Leadership giving orders - and succeeding at the skill roll - is probably sufficient to avoid this requirement, and I could see certain Professional skills standing in for having Teamwork, such as Soldier).
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08-03-2021, 07:25 AM | #8 |
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Re: Questions on Basic Lift (BL).
Absolutely. Heck, that should probably be at +4 for this purpose, and also be able to stand in for Lifting skill.
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08-03-2021, 10:01 AM | #10 |
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Re: Questions on Basic Lift (BL).
Regarding incentive to do that, I'm guessing that like in GURPS Martial Arts there may be an option to substitute slam/collision damage for thrust (if higher) during a Move and Attack maneuver, for shoves too?
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