12-09-2013, 06:40 AM | #11 |
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Re: Insubstaniality and Leech
I'm not sure about combining with Insubstantial, but to use Leech in combat, I've always tacked on Aura +80%.
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12-09-2013, 09:55 AM | #12 |
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12-09-2013, 05:46 PM | #13 |
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12-09-2013, 06:57 PM | #14 |
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Re: Insubstaniality and Leech
Only in-system use I see without a custom modifier is to go ahead and take Ranged, then slap reversed Touch-Based on the +100% Malediction, thereby requiring 'touch'.
'Ranged' is a lie to the tune of +40% but this can be thought of as removing the 'grapple' requirement. That rather is more 'ranged' than directly grappling in close combat. Naturally it requires a Quick Contest every turn, but overall this seems a model for 'soul-stealing wraith-touch', if you will. I do like the Binding idea, perhaps with Link +20%.
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12-09-2013, 08:06 PM | #16 |
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Re: Insubstaniality and Leech
I meant on the build I mentioned, not the direct modifier in Powers. By using reverse Sense-Based (touch) it is back to 'touch'. Though still less restrictive than needing grappling or helplessness.
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12-09-2013, 10:07 PM | #17 |
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Re: Insubstaniality and Leech
Aren't you considered to be in contact with someone merely having a hand inside them? If no one in the scene can do anything about your Insubstantiality, then you might not be in 'combat' and can easily focus on just keeping a hand 'on' someone in combat.
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12-10-2013, 02:36 AM | #18 |
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Re: Insubstaniality and Leech
This thread, again, makes me wish Leech was not such a messy advantage...
Lifestealing auras, blooddrinking weapons, all not really easy to do with the advantage... Leech is currently either something you would use one of your attacks for with the limitation that it can only performed from a grapple, or a ranged malediction you can use on anyone in range. aura to make it not take any maneuver to use in case 1 should work, but you still would have to grapple each victim. an aura with area effect though... I do think it would have the same problems as a follow up leech and such... |
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12-10-2013, 06:08 AM | #20 |
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Re: Insubstaniality and Leech
We can thank the 'template' of Vampiric Bite being used for it. Not very 'generic' of a baseline, so no surprise it trips over itself when modelling significantly different concepts.
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